Message from @campodin
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A Hindu can be of similar culture to a Christian, if you think of culture on a scale larger then surface items like religion, food, etc. it(religion) becomes such an insignificant tidbit that it really shouldn't affect shit.
Also, culture should be organized by the people, the state shouldn't be involved.
And I'm an Athiest who holds the same culture as any other Canadian, so I shouldn't be kept out of office.
culture is scalar
@Zayan Watchel that is such bs. Religion has a huge effect on ones culture. Look at the culture of every Christian nation vs every Muslim one. Even the worst Christian nation is better than the best Muslim nation for the average individual.
Sure, but you just cited culture on a macro scale, a country, when we're discussing the culture of individuals running for office.
All you have to do is look at minority communities to see that their different religious values always separate them from the wider society
As an individual who could run for office, I don't want to be kept out of office.
Sure, but you can put religion aside and be a Canadian, for example, first. It's not impossible, just unlikely, it would be unjust to simply assert that only christians should be permitted to run for office.
You're still citing collectives, not individuals.
Your individual interest doesn't matter with regards to the state. The state isn't there to specifically serve you
It is, actually, if it didn't serve the people what good would it be?
Canada is a joke. you have killed your own culture and nation
Agreed. It's a shithole thanks to our piece of shit manlady.
Still haven't addressed my point. I'm an atheist who is culturally the same as any other person in this country, Christian or no, why should I be kept out of office?
I did address it. The state isn't there to serve you. Its purpose is to serve the nation. That includes all individuals, but primarily it is the nation as a whole it serves. Every politician has the responsibility to serve. If they can't do that properly they should not be allowed to hold the office. A hindu does not have the interests of the Christian nation in mind and thus cannot properly be a public servant.
The fact you think you can be atheist and still hold the same culture as Christians shows your ignorance of what a culture is. I can guarantee there is an entire Christian culture you are not privy to as an atheist, unless you live like a Christian despite your beliefs.
Your attempts at trying to bring it back to Canada are vacuous since Canada is so far gone from what a good society should operate like. Canada needs an entire reordering of its society. Part of that includes imposing the cultural heritage onto minorities. If they don't like it they can leave.
Well, Canada is my country of residence so that's what I used. Replace "Canada" with "America" and you're set. What's your definition of "Nation."
and why should government serve a "Christian Nation?"
In every way except religion, I have the same culture as a Christian. Does that make you feel better?
The nation is a group of people who hold a common heritage, tradition, religion, and/or ethnicity.
Sure.
So America isn't a nation?
Nope
Because if it's not that's a pretty useless definition.
it is comprised of multiple nations
Great. So why can't I run for office again?
I mean, you say I can't serve *the nation* correctly, but there's multiple in America?
Why do you think so many states constantly threaten secession? The state cannot serve all of the nations properly which leads to strife between the different regions.
Right, but I don't care about interregional strife, I want to know why I shouldn't be allowed to enter office. Why does my lack of belief in God stop me from serving people well?
The civil war was a tragedy, the states should have remained the predominant authority in peoples lives.
If I entered office I would make 0 religious mandates or policies surrounding religion, with the exception of abolishing any laws that would prevent you from practicing your religion as you please.
The civil war is history, do you have anything recent?
You won't do the things that are in favor of the nation
calexit
What does that mean?
What is, and isn't, "in favour of the nation?"
For a Christian nation you would not be interested in keeping other minority religious groups out.
Sure, I wouldn't. The social order is free to assemble itself, the state shouldn't be involved.
On principle you would have no problem with a mosque being built in the community
Correct!