Message from @campodin

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2018-09-26 03:26:53 UTC  

and why should government serve a "Christian Nation?"

2018-09-26 03:29:22 UTC  

In every way except religion, I have the same culture as a Christian. Does that make you feel better?

2018-09-26 03:29:33 UTC  

The nation is a group of people who hold a common heritage, tradition, religion, and/or ethnicity.

2018-09-26 03:29:53 UTC  

your assertion that you do means nothing

2018-09-26 03:29:59 UTC  

Sure.

2018-09-26 03:30:30 UTC  

So America isn't a nation?

2018-09-26 03:30:36 UTC  

Nope

2018-09-26 03:30:43 UTC  

Because if it's not that's a pretty useless definition.

2018-09-26 03:30:48 UTC  

it is comprised of multiple nations

2018-09-26 03:31:16 UTC  

Great. So why can't I run for office again?

2018-09-26 03:31:34 UTC  

I mean, you say I can't serve *the nation* correctly, but there's multiple in America?

2018-09-26 03:33:21 UTC  

Why do you think so many states constantly threaten secession? The state cannot serve all of the nations properly which leads to strife between the different regions.

2018-09-26 03:34:02 UTC  

Right, but I don't care about interregional strife, I want to know why I shouldn't be allowed to enter office. Why does my lack of belief in God stop me from serving people well?

2018-09-26 03:34:37 UTC  

The civil war was a tragedy, the states should have remained the predominant authority in peoples lives.

2018-09-26 03:34:45 UTC  

If I entered office I would make 0 religious mandates or policies surrounding religion, with the exception of abolishing any laws that would prevent you from practicing your religion as you please.

2018-09-26 03:35:06 UTC  

The civil war is history, do you have anything recent?

2018-09-26 03:35:21 UTC  

You won't do the things that are in favor of the nation

2018-09-26 03:35:30 UTC  

calexit

2018-09-26 03:35:35 UTC  

What does that mean?

2018-09-26 03:35:50 UTC  

What is, and isn't, "in favour of the nation?"

2018-09-26 03:37:15 UTC  

For a Christian nation you would not be interested in keeping other minority religious groups out.

2018-09-26 03:38:09 UTC  

Sure, I wouldn't. The social order is free to assemble itself, the state shouldn't be involved.

2018-09-26 03:38:10 UTC  

On principle you would have no problem with a mosque being built in the community

2018-09-26 03:38:23 UTC  

Correct!

2018-09-26 03:38:32 UTC  

As long as a church can also be built.

2018-09-26 03:38:32 UTC  

This is why, you don't have the nation in mind

2018-09-26 03:38:40 UTC  

Sure, now why is that bad?

2018-09-26 03:40:32 UTC  

You are undermining the nation, breaking down its identity, and devolving what it means to be a part of it. This is why you Canadians are such cucks, you can't see why your own nation is falling apart. You have no sense of self preservation.

2018-09-26 03:41:11 UTC  

No, not really and I can get to why exactly in a moment. But the first bit is just a reactionary, moral, and emotional statement. Justify it.

2018-09-26 03:42:46 UTC  

Look at Canada, and every western nation, this insistence on liberal secularism is a complete failure.

2018-09-26 03:43:15 UTC  

But that's not what I'm advocating for. I want to abolish all social programs and strengthen the borders.

2018-09-26 03:43:17 UTC  

@The Big Oof still think I'm a lolbert?

2018-09-26 03:43:38 UTC  

Boblert.

2018-09-26 03:44:08 UTC  

Yeah, I want those things too

2018-09-26 03:44:44 UTC  

But I don't want a shitty law that stops me from entering office just because I'm an Athiest. Why can't we be free religiously?

2018-09-26 03:45:38 UTC  

The individuals can be free to worship however they please.

2018-09-26 03:45:38 UTC  

☭ ☭ ☭

2018-09-26 03:46:08 UTC  

But they can't enter office? And they can't build a religious temple?

2018-09-26 03:47:10 UTC  

That's not "free to worship" that's "free to be fucked over."

2018-09-26 03:47:11 UTC  

Honestly the building of religious buildings should fall under the authority of local government, not state, federal, etc.

2018-09-26 03:47:36 UTC  

It should fall under the authority of people and whether or not they can acquire the land.