Message from @Lotus Calme

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2018-06-13 05:05:31 UTC  

theft isnt inherently evil

2018-06-13 05:05:41 UTC  

its the principle

2018-06-13 05:05:51 UTC  

an evil act shouldnt be done

2018-06-13 05:05:59 UTC  

>depriving someone of what is rightfully theirs isn't evil
🤔

2018-06-13 05:06:01 UTC  

I would be willing to forgive someone who did an 'evil' act by accepting who hey are, for example, in the process of molding them into a better person. That is not permanent.

2018-06-13 05:06:06 UTC  

even if it does good, principle

2018-06-13 05:06:22 UTC  

it hurts

2018-06-13 05:06:34 UTC  

but thats kinda the point god wants to make

2018-06-13 05:06:35 UTC  

you just called a starving child stealing bread from a baker evil

2018-06-13 05:06:47 UTC  

we cant achieve the ideal

2018-06-13 05:06:59 UTC  

my point wasnt done

2018-06-13 05:07:04 UTC  

Or the bourgeoisie being killed by the proletariat. 😎

2018-06-13 05:07:06 UTC  

>be the bigger person
aka, let people walk all over you and have moral principles that are toppled by a slight breeze

2018-06-13 05:07:20 UTC  

the child did an evil act

2018-06-13 05:07:22 UTC  

prove me wrong

2018-06-13 05:07:25 UTC  

you can't

2018-06-13 05:07:27 UTC  

If your ideals are absolute you're asking to be moved on them anyways.

2018-06-13 05:07:31 UTC  

I can

2018-06-13 05:07:37 UTC  

the child was trying to survive

2018-06-13 05:07:53 UTC  

wtf josh is a socialist???? excess wealth should be redisributed!!!1?1?!1

2018-06-13 05:07:54 UTC  

the child did something evil to live

2018-06-13 05:08:28 UTC  

evil is too string a word the child did a bad thing but to jump straight to evil ignores the context

2018-06-13 05:08:37 UTC  

it must be done, but its never justified

2018-06-13 05:08:47 UTC  

>evil
>a strong word
only if you make it as such

2018-06-13 05:08:53 UTC  

taxes for example are necessary theft

2018-06-13 05:09:11 UTC  

>taxes
>necessary
not in my utopia :ancap:

2018-06-13 05:09:13 UTC  

evil is the worst form of bad there is

2018-06-13 05:09:20 UTC  

If you are making it such a watered down word when in English it's a very strong one you're either being intentionally or unintentionally intellectually dishonest within the context of your own made-up jargon.

2018-06-13 05:09:27 UTC  

ancap is unrealistic im done

2018-06-13 05:09:41 UTC  

@Josh42A I'm not ancap, but ancap is a good meme

2018-06-13 05:09:51 UTC  

In English, like every language in the world, words have meaning.

2018-06-13 05:09:57 UTC  

im still done I hate post modernists

2018-06-13 05:10:02 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз we don't have to use the word evil then, we could use "bad" or "wrong"

2018-06-13 05:10:17 UTC  

Is it bad for a child to steal from a baker if they're starving?

2018-06-13 05:10:21 UTC  

@Josh42A
>me
>a post modernist
I am an ABSOLUTIST

2018-06-13 05:10:33 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз it's bad for anyone to steal, reason does not matter

2018-06-13 05:10:38 UTC  

nice try post modernist

2018-06-13 05:10:44 UTC  

perhaps it is wrong for the child to be starving

2018-06-13 05:10:47 UTC  

I can tell you're a absolutist because of the gaps in your logic.

2018-06-13 05:10:51 UTC  

but thieving is still wrong

2018-06-13 05:11:02 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз its not wrong in terms of nessesity , but it is in principle