Message from @Rob Travis (Mason)

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2018-06-13 05:02:21 UTC  

its a point

2018-06-13 05:02:40 UTC  

I pointed up and said kek

2018-06-13 05:03:12 UTC  

either way:
you can't forgive someone when they do not want to be forgiven

2018-06-13 05:03:21 UTC  

Why not?

2018-06-13 05:03:23 UTC  

thats false

2018-06-13 05:03:39 UTC  

if you forgive someone who is not sorry for a deed

2018-06-13 05:03:44 UTC  

you are being morally weak

2018-06-13 05:03:48 UTC  

being offended is a choice

2018-06-13 05:03:49 UTC  

by permitting them to do evil

2018-06-13 05:04:01 UTC  

your morals are not the same as mine

2018-06-13 05:04:06 UTC  

Is everything that must be forgiven "evil" then? Don't generalize.

2018-06-13 05:04:14 UTC  

yes?

2018-06-13 05:04:25 UTC  

if it's not evil, why would it need forgiven

2018-06-13 05:04:35 UTC  

If you're speaking purely within a religious context then sure, absolutely. Except religion isn't the real world.

2018-06-13 05:04:43 UTC  

Speaking materially you make no fucking sense.

2018-06-13 05:04:59 UTC  

every act is
1. good
2. bad
3. passive

2018-06-13 05:05:08 UTC  

only bad acts need forgiveness

2018-06-13 05:05:14 UTC  

I think hes confusing malice with evil

2018-06-13 05:05:31 UTC  

malice comes from evil tho

2018-06-13 05:05:31 UTC  

theft isnt inherently evil

2018-06-13 05:05:41 UTC  

its the principle

2018-06-13 05:05:51 UTC  

an evil act shouldnt be done

2018-06-13 05:05:59 UTC  

>depriving someone of what is rightfully theirs isn't evil
🤔

2018-06-13 05:06:01 UTC  

I would be willing to forgive someone who did an 'evil' act by accepting who hey are, for example, in the process of molding them into a better person. That is not permanent.

2018-06-13 05:06:06 UTC  

even if it does good, principle

2018-06-13 05:06:22 UTC  

it hurts

2018-06-13 05:06:34 UTC  

but thats kinda the point god wants to make

2018-06-13 05:06:35 UTC  

you just called a starving child stealing bread from a baker evil

2018-06-13 05:06:47 UTC  

we cant achieve the ideal

2018-06-13 05:06:59 UTC  

my point wasnt done

2018-06-13 05:07:04 UTC  

Or the bourgeoisie being killed by the proletariat. 😎

2018-06-13 05:07:06 UTC  

>be the bigger person
aka, let people walk all over you and have moral principles that are toppled by a slight breeze

2018-06-13 05:07:20 UTC  

the child did an evil act

2018-06-13 05:07:22 UTC  

prove me wrong

2018-06-13 05:07:25 UTC  

you can't

2018-06-13 05:07:27 UTC  

If your ideals are absolute you're asking to be moved on them anyways.

2018-06-13 05:07:31 UTC  

I can

2018-06-13 05:07:37 UTC  

the child was trying to survive

2018-06-13 05:07:53 UTC  

wtf josh is a socialist???? excess wealth should be redisributed!!!1?1?!1

2018-06-13 05:07:54 UTC  

the child did something evil to live

2018-06-13 05:08:28 UTC  

evil is too string a word the child did a bad thing but to jump straight to evil ignores the context