the child was trying to survive

wtf josh is a socialist???? excess wealth should be redisributed!!!1?1?!1

the child did something evil to live

evil is too string a word the child did a bad thing but to jump straight to evil ignores the context

it must be done, but its never justified

>evil
>a strong word
only if you make it as such

taxes for example are necessary theft

>taxes
>necessary
not in my utopia :ancap:

evil is the worst form of bad there is

If you are making it such a watered down word when in English it's a very strong one you're either being intentionally or unintentionally intellectually dishonest within the context of your own made-up jargon.

ancap is unrealistic im done

@Josh42A I'm not ancap, but ancap is a good meme

In English, like every language in the world, words have meaning.

im still done I hate post modernists

@εïз irma εïз we don't have to use the word evil then, we could use "bad" or "wrong"

Is it bad for a child to steal from a baker if they're starving?

@Josh42A
>me
>a post modernist
I am an ABSOLUTIST

@εïз irma εïз it's bad for anyone to steal, reason does not matter

nice try post modernist

perhaps it is wrong for the child to be starving

I can tell you're a absolutist because of the gaps in your logic.

but thieving is still wrong

@εïз irma εïз its not wrong in terms of nessesity , but it is in principle

@Josh42A you're the one with a morally relative ideology

morals *are* reletive

false

It is bad for ANYONE to steal, ignoring the context of specific situations. The necessity of starvation is more important than the morality of theft.

^literal post modernist though @Josh42A

didnt you say things have an intrinsic value

they do

Moral relativism is not a strictly post-modernist view.

then how are morals subjective?

@εïз irma εïз
>implying a justified act can't still be wrong
it's almost as if you're a relativist

morals are reletive because context matters

morals should be on principle

pragmatism is bullshit

if your morality is moveable, it shall be moved, and thus it is relativist

They should and they are, yet morals are not the same everywhere. Only morals that are a part of our biological shopping list are common across cultures.

yes just like society

if all the moral principals were in place the starving child wouldnt happen

Yes I quoted Foucault. 😎