Blacks are poorer, they want Democrats to support public programs that help them.

Not hard to grasp.

Democrats dont support programs that help blacks

I agree, subjective as that is.

The Great Society hurt blacks more than it helped them.

I'm pretty sure democrats have been fucking black people over for a while

Democrat controlled regions have lower standard of livings than republican-controlled black regions

intentionally and unintentionally

Yeah, but none of these are arguments against diversity in a democracy.

Its intentional for the most part @Deleted User

They just do the bare min to get their vote

what define a 'democracy'

The shameless and toxic pandering to minorities isn't a good thing. Wouldn't not happen if an authoritarian government wanted to secure a demographic vote. FDR made a deal with Southern Democrats not to include blacks in many New Deal programs to get their support.

because in the US we only democratically elect people

FDR definitely led an authoritarian government.

America is a democracy. A republic is still a democracy.

America is not a democracy lmao

that's not what I asked

Its a constitutional republic

Well we're talking about America, so I'm pointing to American democracy.

We democratically elect people

<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993> >america is a democracy

that's it

And yes America absolutely is a democracy. Why is it not a democracy? Representative democracy makes a republic a republic. Did you ever stop for more than two seconds and wonder why it's called representative "democracy"?

Or did that just slip your mind?

what define a 'democracy'

''a democracy''

Rule by the people, etymologically speaking.

Demos, kratos.

america is ruled by [all] the people because we elect representatives?

Legally speaking America is a democracy even if it's been so heavily bureaucratized since FDR that the people increasingly have less power over the affairs of the state.

It doesn't suddenly stop being a democracy as soon as government isn't as small and direct as you want it to be. Sorry, that's not how the world works.

We still elect people, federally and locally.

Those people decide domestic and foreign policy.

''It doesn't suddenly stop being a democracy as soon as government isn't as small and direct as you want it to be. Sorry, that's not how the world works.'' I never implied that

When they don't do what we want as voters we don't reelect them.

Sounds like democracy to me.

Anon seems to have run off after claiming that America isn't a democracy for the 2946th time and being told why he's wrong by me on this specific point for the 2946th time.

the only say we have in their decisions is getting them elected. we can't guarantee that they'll do what the majority wants

Yes, but that doesn't make it not a democracy. A republic is a democracy.

we have a say in who gets in power, depending on the position, that's about it