Message from @ham addition
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and from my point of view i haven't seen female rulers doing any worse of a job than male ones so i'm not sure where you're getting that from
It isn't appropriate because my values say so. It doesn't make any sense trying to explain it after that.
It is so because it is.
well you're right about it not making any sense because i am thoroughly confuzzled
Like how peadophilia is wrong because it is. Not because children can't consent, they can, but because it simply is.
are you comparing women being rulers to pedophilia
i don't think those are remotely comparable
It is the same principle. Peadophilia is bad, so is female rulers (not to the same degree of course). Why are these two things bad? Well, they just are.
also i didn't notice where you said that children can consent at first but yikes
and there's an actual reason for pedophilia being bad, that being that children can't consent and express that they don't want sex
Most of the times doing such acts hurts the child, but not always. Yet, I still believe it is wrong.
whereas there is not an equivalent for women being rulers
that is like comparing murder and jaywalking
I'm definetly not saying the two are in any way equally bad.
Obviously, peadophilia is worse.
But why is it bad?
Children can consent. But I think it is still horrible.
It is a very dangerous mindset to have, because the only thing you have to do to make you belive peadophilia is moral is to convince you children can consent.
I, however, will still think it is horrible.
alright but all you've actually provided to say that women being rulers is bad is that it goes against your values without any other reasoning
Alright
To truely argue for my case we have to delve deep into the value systems we both hold.
your values don't just come out of nowhere, you have to decide on why you hold them yourself
the rationale behind child labor laws and laws against pedophilia is that children are not capable of completely understanding the situation
Of course, it is a little bit more complicated then just deciding what morals to have because we humans have a built-in sense of morality, although that can be eroded. We have a whole feild to discuss such things, Ethics.
In any case, why would it make sense just to decide what is moral or not based on weather it hurts other people?
well this has been a fun time but i would like to play rollercoaster tycoon 2 now so bye
Alright
Good bye
Pedophilia is fucking abhorrent, I object to it on emotional grounds primarily and I will defend that to death
Yes, exactly.
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I'm normally all about logic and science and sheiz, but if a study comes out saying that pedophilia is actually good for children I will literally become a denier of science in order to keep any children I have safe from that crap
Well I mean, it is logical
You can't decide what is good or what is bad using science
That’s why Philosophy is still important 😃
@सासोलॊपै if that is the way you feel about that server then I will treat you too with the contempt you deserve
@Deleted User you were right it's just shitposts oof
Yup
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