Message from @Snakeisninja

Discord ID: 488123908252368907


2018-09-08 23:05:17 UTC  

You don't look for things you would like more, or that you enjoy eating?

2018-09-08 23:05:42 UTC  

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here

2018-09-08 23:05:53 UTC  

I'm talking to the other one.

2018-09-08 23:06:00 UTC  

He said food is for nutrition.

2018-09-08 23:06:07 UTC  

Yes.

2018-09-08 23:06:08 UTC  

The Telos is the survival of genes, do you disagree?

2018-09-08 23:06:22 UTC  

The ultimate goal?

2018-09-08 23:06:24 UTC  

The biological purpose of enjoyment is to encourage you to pursue good behavior

2018-09-08 23:06:32 UTC  

Then what about priests?

2018-09-08 23:06:49 UTC  

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 remember what I said about groups?

2018-09-08 23:06:54 UTC  

Are priests degenerate because they take vows to remain celibate?

2018-09-08 23:07:15 UTC  

That is contrary to the Telos.

2018-09-08 23:07:24 UTC  

Which is the survival of genetic material.

2018-09-08 23:07:30 UTC  

A priest serves a function in his group that increases group cohesion and the likelihood of shared genes surviving

2018-09-08 23:07:40 UTC  

Not all religious institutions require or encourage celibacy

2018-09-08 23:07:52 UTC  

Then again

2018-09-08 23:07:57 UTC  

By your definition

2018-09-08 23:08:11 UTC  

Orthodox priests marry and have lots of children

2018-09-08 23:08:39 UTC  

I'm not arguing for, or against. Just asking the question.

2018-09-08 23:09:23 UTC  

I would argue that catholic priests are currently degenerate

2018-09-08 23:10:08 UTC  

A celibate priest is acting in a way that will increase the likelihood that his genes will survive, because his siblings, cousins, and entire extended family which shares genes that belong to his group benefit from priests promoting social norms in the group

2018-09-08 23:10:08 UTC  

#notall

2018-09-08 23:10:54 UTC  

I see.

2018-09-08 23:11:04 UTC  

Also the term degeneracy doesn't apply to the absence of good behavior. It is used to identify behavior that is similar to good behavior but misses the mark

2018-09-08 23:11:14 UTC  

But snake is right

2018-09-08 23:11:27 UTC  

No.

2018-09-08 23:11:32 UTC  

So gay sex is like regular sex but it misses the possibility of producing offspring

2018-09-08 23:11:35 UTC  

It's the signs of decline.

2018-09-08 23:12:02 UTC  

what i've learned from this server is that "degeneracy" is anything you don't like and can't think of any actual argument against

2018-09-08 23:12:09 UTC  

Evidence of decline.

2018-09-08 23:12:12 UTC  

Gay sex has many issues.

2018-09-08 23:12:15 UTC  

Which is subjective.

2018-09-08 23:12:24 UTC  
2018-09-08 23:12:35 UTC  

@ham addition well I just joined tonight but I think my case for it is quite coherent

2018-09-08 23:12:42 UTC  

1: Unhealthy
2: Symptom of the breakdown of social morality.
3: Fucking gross

2018-09-08 23:12:54 UTC  

Degeneracy is whatever one views as the evidence of decline.

2018-09-08 23:12:58 UTC  

Inherently hedonistic

2018-09-08 23:13:14 UTC  

In a sense gay sex is very close to being a procreative act, but the factor that keeps it from being procreative is what makes it degenerate

2018-09-08 23:13:18 UTC  

Where did you pull evidence of decline from?

2018-09-08 23:13:34 UTC  

The dictionary.

2018-09-08 23:13:36 UTC  

@Snakeisninja are you a fag