Yeah.

We don't eat to survive

Now threat has become meaningless

We eat because we like it.

People do things that are detrimental to the survival of their genes, of humanity, and of life

Lol food is for nutrition

And often that action is in contrary to survival.

What I claim is not that all organism act this way, but that this is how all organisms SHOULD act

Yeah and those are the degenerate behaviors

So when you go to the store, you buy anything.

Those who do so well pass on their genes. The rest are lost to time

You don't look for things you would like more, or that you enjoy eating?

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here

I'm talking to the other one.

He said food is for nutrition.

Yes.

The Telos is the survival of genes, do you disagree?

The ultimate goal?

The biological purpose of enjoyment is to encourage you to pursue good behavior

Then what about priests?

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 remember what I said about groups?

Are priests degenerate because they take vows to remain celibate?

That is contrary to the Telos.

Which is the survival of genetic material.

A priest serves a function in his group that increases group cohesion and the likelihood of shared genes surviving

Not all religious institutions require or encourage celibacy

Then again

By your definition

Orthodox priests marry and have lots of children

I'm not arguing for, or against. Just asking the question.

I would argue that catholic priests are currently degenerate

A celibate priest is acting in a way that will increase the likelihood that his genes will survive, because his siblings, cousins, and entire extended family which shares genes that belong to his group benefit from priests promoting social norms in the group

#notall

I see.

Also the term degeneracy doesn't apply to the absence of good behavior. It is used to identify behavior that is similar to good behavior but misses the mark

But snake is right

No.

So gay sex is like regular sex but it misses the possibility of producing offspring

It's the signs of decline.

what i've learned from this server is that "degeneracy" is anything you don't like and can't think of any actual argument against

Evidence of decline.