Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿

Discord ID: 491834276808097796


2018-09-19 04:46:40 UTC  

ok, not the literal best. just in general

2018-09-19 04:46:56 UTC  

Well that's just due to the climate.

2018-09-19 04:47:01 UTC  

The growing zone.

2018-09-19 04:47:40 UTC  

The produce doesn't need to be bred to be hardy

2018-09-19 04:48:02 UTC  

Strange how the breeding process often has such an effect on the flavour.

2018-09-19 04:49:01 UTC  

that's what I'm saying. America has great zones for farming

2018-09-19 04:49:24 UTC  

To bad you squander it with poisons.

2018-09-19 04:50:04 UTC  

I believe subsidies encourage bad distribution of resources though

2018-09-19 04:50:07 UTC  

Also lack of crop rotation.

2018-09-19 04:50:14 UTC  

too much corn

2018-09-19 04:50:24 UTC  

too much soy

2018-09-19 04:50:57 UTC  

Sometimes that's all that will grow

2018-09-19 04:51:40 UTC  

government guarantees them money no matter if they over produce

2018-09-19 04:52:15 UTC  

that means they have no incentive to be careful with the land

2018-09-19 04:52:50 UTC  

Well, sounds like their own decisions.

2018-09-19 04:52:58 UTC  

Not the fault of the Government.

2018-09-19 04:52:58 UTC  

might as well exploit it to the maximum amount to get as much out of the government as possible

2018-09-19 04:53:16 UTC  

That's a fault of the people.

2018-09-19 04:53:28 UTC  

it is in their self interest to do it

2018-09-19 04:53:34 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-19 04:53:49 UTC  

So it's greed, ultimately, that is the issue.

2018-09-19 04:53:54 UTC  

government has given them perverse incentives

2018-09-19 04:54:06 UTC  

Would you take the subsidies away and have the farmers just say it isn't worth it?

2018-09-19 04:54:15 UTC  

doesn't even have to be greed

2018-09-19 04:54:27 UTC  

They can't strike, but they can certainly retire.

2018-09-19 04:55:11 UTC  

if you could make a guaranteed amount of money now for greater security in the future, why wouldn't you do it?

2018-09-19 04:55:12 UTC  

It sounds like it is the people that are the problem, not the other way round.

2018-09-19 04:55:42 UTC  

Why's not be in favor of a more structured system?

2018-09-19 04:55:46 UTC  

it is in their own self interest

2018-09-19 04:56:30 UTC  

^

2018-09-19 04:56:46 UTC  

With more thought into it than "*Money.* **Money** ***Money!***"

2018-09-19 04:56:49 UTC  

They have to put their part in the system structure.

2018-09-19 04:56:50 UTC  

why not remove the perverse incentives, let farming fix itself by allowing farmers providing what people actually want

2018-09-19 04:57:30 UTC  

Because if they just do the same thing?

2018-09-19 04:57:40 UTC  

And make money exporting?

2018-09-19 04:57:53 UTC  

China and Japan love soybeans.

2018-09-19 04:58:22 UTC  

they couldn't, because over producing provides diminishing returns without a guaranteed amount fro the government

2018-09-19 04:58:24 UTC  

The grocer's there would most likely jump on cheap soy.

2018-09-19 04:58:48 UTC  

And

2018-09-19 04:59:03 UTC  

they can buy the cheap soy now

2018-09-19 04:59:04 UTC  

The land is already in rough shape.