Message from @campodin
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Yes
So it's greed, ultimately, that is the issue.
government has given them perverse incentives
Would you take the subsidies away and have the farmers just say it isn't worth it?
doesn't even have to be greed
They can't strike, but they can certainly retire.
if you could make a guaranteed amount of money now for greater security in the future, why wouldn't you do it?
It sounds like it is the people that are the problem, not the other way round.
Why's not be in favor of a more structured system?
it is in their own self interest
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With more thought into it than "*Money.* **Money** ***Money!***"
They have to put their part in the system structure.
why not remove the perverse incentives, let farming fix itself by allowing farmers providing what people actually want
Because if they just do the same thing?
And make money exporting?
China and Japan love soybeans.
they couldn't, because over producing provides diminishing returns without a guaranteed amount fro the government
The grocer's there would most likely jump on cheap soy.
And
The land is already in rough shape.
It could take years to restore the top soil.
What do the farmers do in the time it takes to change the composition to something else?
yeah, and the government is the one responsible for the incentive structures they have put in place
That's not true.
The people didn't ***have*** to take advantage.
They actively chose that path.
if they didn't they would be stupid
By their own will and thought.
So it is their fault
You're saying humans can not help, but take advantage of anything even though they understand they are doing wrong?
one option ispossibility of loss the other is a guaranteed amount of money from the government
Again, is that the fault of the government?
yes
Or is it the people?
government doesn't need to do that
government is encouraging them to do that
If I have a family and home I will always go for the more secure income
Well maybe there is a reason they started.
Probably because people started to aggregate in the cities.