if you could make a guaranteed amount of money now for greater security in the future, why wouldn't you do it?

It sounds like it is the people that are the problem, not the other way round.

Why's not be in favor of a more structured system?

it is in their own self interest

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With more thought into it than "*Money.* **Money** ***Money!***"

They have to put their part in the system structure.

why not remove the perverse incentives, let farming fix itself by allowing farmers providing what people actually want

Because if they just do the same thing?

And make money exporting?

China and Japan love soybeans.

they couldn't, because over producing provides diminishing returns without a guaranteed amount fro the government

The grocer's there would most likely jump on cheap soy.

And

they can buy the cheap soy now

The land is already in rough shape.

It could take years to restore the top soil.

What do the farmers do in the time it takes to change the composition to something else?

yeah, and the government is the one responsible for the incentive structures they have put in place

That's not true.

The people didn't ***have*** to take advantage.

They actively chose that path.

if they didn't they would be stupid

By their own will and thought.

So it is their fault

You're saying humans can not help, but take advantage of anything even though they understand they are doing wrong?

one option ispossibility of loss the other is a guaranteed amount of money from the government

Again, is that the fault of the government?

yes

Or is it the people?

government doesn't need to do that

government is encouraging them to do that

If I have a family and home I will always go for the more secure income

Well maybe there is a reason they started.

Probably because people started to aggregate in the cities.

Leaving their farms and such.

Aging labour force.

it was started with the idea that we need to keep farmers from being hurt by losss

I think it would be fun to see what happens.

So I'm all for it, honestly.

"Farming will fix itself"