no state intervention

Capitalism is not simple commodity production

I never said anything such

You cannot reduce it to that

show me where I said that

I said capitalism is the free market without state intervention

which is true

It is not

Yes it is

Capitalism as per Adam Smith is the free market

no state intervention

Capitalism, even in anarcho capitalism which is simply to prove the conept under the hardest circumstanes, demosntrates that eventaully a govorening body will emerge from the anarchy and establish the market.

the state is a direct contradiction to capitalism, thats why theres no capitalism

@Bogatyr Bogumir no because nobody will follow the government

so it won't have any power

-> US free market capitalism
-> Started everything by tarrifing british goods

But thats a seperate thing

US is not free market

capitalism

?????

The capitalist system is the mode of production wherein the social relations of production allow for a bourgeois class to exploit workers for profit through m-c-m commodity form against the downward rate of profit

yeah no

Thats just semantics

It's the entirety of analysis

Capitalism is just the free market free from state intervention

I meant mostly that even if there was no govorment, so anarcho capitalism the end game is a superme corporation that takes over eventually, or a force that establishes itself as the govorment and then dictates the market

listen, I'll put it in bite size form to accomodate your attention span:
Capitalism requires enforcable contracts to function, and the state is the only body that can effectively or efficiently enforce them
Capitalism also often requires trade controls to favor domestic producers and consumers, which only the state can effectively enforce
The "Free Market" as we know it requires significant maintenance by the state

the rules of the market

"Capitalism requires enforcable contracts to function, and the state is the only body that can effectively or efficiently enforce them"

no it does not

the free market

allocates the resources

...

Capitalism also often requires trade controls to favor domestic producers and consumers, which only the state can effectively enforce

thats not capitalism^^^

thats protectionism which is a form of socialism

and not capitalism

not if I get him first @el pebble

He has to be like 15 @ＩＶ ＬＩ Ｖ Ｓ

I'M 16

lmao