Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-06 17:21:36 UTC  

a form of socialism

2018-12-06 17:21:37 UTC  

lol

2018-12-06 17:21:38 UTC  

There is a lot more to the capitalism mode of production

2018-12-06 17:21:40 UTC  

demokratiaToday at 17:21
Capitalism is not about a free market

2018-12-06 17:21:41 UTC  

Yes it is

2018-12-06 17:21:45 UTC  

enabling law as in economics you retard

2018-12-06 17:21:49 UTC  

holy fuck

2018-12-06 17:22:10 UTC  

demokratiaToday at 17:21
There is a lot more to the capitalism mode of production

2018-12-06 17:22:10 UTC  

go read you philistine

2018-12-06 17:22:18 UTC  

I have

2018-12-06 17:22:25 UTC  

thats why I say capitalism is the free market

2018-12-06 17:22:28 UTC  

no state intervention

2018-12-06 17:22:38 UTC  

Capitalism is not simple commodity production

2018-12-06 17:22:47 UTC  

I never said anything such

2018-12-06 17:22:47 UTC  

You cannot reduce it to that

2018-12-06 17:22:54 UTC  

show me where I said that

2018-12-06 17:23:02 UTC  

I said capitalism is the free market without state intervention

2018-12-06 17:23:06 UTC  

which is true

2018-12-06 17:23:10 UTC  

It is not

2018-12-06 17:23:14 UTC  

Yes it is

2018-12-06 17:23:31 UTC  

Capitalism as per Adam Smith is the free market

2018-12-06 17:23:36 UTC  

no state intervention

2018-12-06 17:23:40 UTC  

Capitalism, even in anarcho capitalism which is simply to prove the conept under the hardest circumstanes, demosntrates that eventaully a govorening body will emerge from the anarchy and establish the market.

2018-12-06 17:23:47 UTC  

the state is a direct contradiction to capitalism, thats why theres no capitalism

2018-12-06 17:23:53 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir no because nobody will follow the government

2018-12-06 17:23:58 UTC  

so it won't have any power

2018-12-06 17:24:11 UTC  

-> US free market capitalism
-> Started everything by tarrifing british goods

2018-12-06 17:24:11 UTC  

But thats a seperate thing

2018-12-06 17:24:17 UTC  

US is not free market

2018-12-06 17:24:20 UTC  

capitalism

2018-12-06 17:24:22 UTC  

?????

2018-12-06 17:24:31 UTC  

The capitalist system is the mode of production wherein the social relations of production allow for a bourgeois class to exploit workers for profit through m-c-m commodity form against the downward rate of profit

2018-12-06 17:24:37 UTC  

yeah no

2018-12-06 17:24:42 UTC  

Thats just semantics

2018-12-06 17:24:49 UTC  

It's the entirety of analysis

2018-12-06 17:24:50 UTC  

Capitalism is just the free market free from state intervention

2018-12-06 17:24:50 UTC  

I meant mostly that even if there was no govorment, so anarcho capitalism the end game is a superme corporation that takes over eventually, or a force that establishes itself as the govorment and then dictates the market

2018-12-06 17:24:53 UTC  

listen, I'll put it in bite size form to accomodate your attention span:
Capitalism requires enforcable contracts to function, and the state is the only body that can effectively or efficiently enforce them
Capitalism also often requires trade controls to favor domestic producers and consumers, which only the state can effectively enforce
The "Free Market" as we know it requires significant maintenance by the state

2018-12-06 17:24:55 UTC  

the rules of the market

2018-12-06 17:25:00 UTC  

"Capitalism requires enforcable contracts to function, and the state is the only body that can effectively or efficiently enforce them"

2018-12-06 17:25:01 UTC  

no it does not