you could learn from that

do right where he did wrong

I can't re-code my brain to make me want kids

@Donut Steel Tendies I have a bad relationship with mine as well. It's all about using it as fuel to have a great relationship with your kids

I jsut can't make myself want that

I'm assuming you're a young guy, maybe 18-25

consider it

Taking the good, leaving the bad

I'm 20

finding the right person I'd even trust is hard enough for me and haveing kids that would rely on me terrifies me

Mine was completely absent from my life, I was raised by my mom who brought several abusive guys in our house. I can tell you that I almost hated men. But that's not the right attitude, our deceptive past can't dictate our future. You should want one day to construct this beautiful family that you wish you had

We are just 20

don't put pressure on yourself right now

I never wished to have a family in the first place

You think loneliness is the solution ?

that's a false dychotomy

I don't need a family to not feel lonely

I understand, you can have friends, relatives,...

in fact many lonely men are married with families

I agree

All the people I know who didn't have kids or a wife are pretty unhappy. Not that I'm saying you need kids to be happy, but I think almost everyone does. Like @Deleted User said, let nature run its course. But be sure its nature and not externalities

It takes a while, but the regret does set in

But finding the right person and starting a life together, I think that's a whole new level of personal hapiness

I think it's best to start on it young, I can understand being weary, but in the long run is better

I have a far less of a dramatic view of starting a life I guess

can we at least agree that it is possible that it might not be the path to happiness for me?

For sure

For sure

It's 100% possible

anything is a possibility

If my views on that change I swear I will do as it's best for me

When I look at what we sort of need today, it's good parents

That's the very best any of us can do @Donut Steel Tendies

I actually agree

but pressuring people into parenthood won't result into good parents

we need to be smarter about that

There's not enough of them in this day and age, the children that are being made nowadays are out of wedlock and all that, I think we need all that we can get.

People being pressured into not being parents I think is a much bigger problem, the media is trying to stigmatize parenthood and make it seem like parents are miserable people

be less along the lines of "save muh white race" and more towards "hey, having a family is a legitimate way to see your future"

I see this crisis as a cultural, not a race problem

I just don't want this place to get undercut, the media does generally try to promote bringing down the birth rate and all that, not just among the racial lines