no but his arguments are gonna end up lost if its just a mess of anti-coms typing, let him speak

Go ahead I'm listening

They began taking food away from peasants in 1916 beacuse of food shortages and speculating

Then the Civil War started

Of because of the war, you know, just a little something called WW1

ah i see so the EMPIRE took food but the Communists didn't

Russian industry was small, so they couldn't produce goods for trade and had to concentrate on making weapons

I see

excellent reasoning

even though prior to the revolution

Russia was the second fastest growing economy in the world

So communists had to adopt these policies as well

"policies"

that's a really thuggish way of saying "lets kill off millions of people because they dont give us their wheat"

what ever happened to workers owned the means of production

What do you mean?

The means of production were owned by the workers

May I continue?

So

Bolsheviks gave the big landlords' property to the peasants who divided it equally

But these small farms weren't effective enough and couldn't supply Russia with all the food it needed

But communists had to deal with it during the NEP

how were they when the people who owned the means of production were not allowed to sell their productions?

Ownership =/= right to sell

How can you sell anything if you're the only possible owner?

The government can still block private owners from selling under capitalism, if it wishes. So that isn't really relevant @Adoring Fan

This too

So

Capitalist America is hella comfy

During the NEP communists allowed private enterprises to rebuild the country ASAP

@Fuju if it wishes, yet it doesn't do that nearly to the extent that the soviet union did.

So what?

NEP was actually a policy of state capitalism like in China today

The workers still owned the mp, and that's what matters regarding your original question.

then what is the merit of owning the means of production? You can do nothing with it

@GucciToiletSalesman not really no.

You can take part in deciding how the money should be spent

You do realise that question would apply to both private and publicly owned means of production, right? @Adoring Fan

@Advocatus Diaboli that is like saying you can take part in elections. Your one vote changes nothing