Message from @Advocatus Diaboli
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being this delusional
There were famines in the Soviet Union during 1920, 1924, 1936, 1946, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1984.
1901, 1906, 1921, 1939, 1948, 1951, 1957, 1975, 1995.
1911, 1931, 1963, 1965, 1991.
Pls shut up everyone so I can explain
as many as 15 million people died in the holodomor
go ahead
We are waiting
this isnt voice chat
you arent interrupted here
Russian Empire had been having famines every 2 or 3 years
no but his arguments are gonna end up lost if its just a mess of anti-coms typing, let him speak
Go ahead I'm listening
They began taking food away from peasants in 1916 beacuse of food shortages and speculating
Then the Civil War started
Of because of the war, you know, just a little something called WW1
ah i see so the EMPIRE took food but the Communists didn't
Russian industry was small, so they couldn't produce goods for trade and had to concentrate on making weapons
I see
excellent reasoning
even though prior to the revolution
Russia was the second fastest growing economy in the world
"policies"
that's a really thuggish way of saying "lets kill off millions of people because they dont give us their wheat"
what ever happened to workers owned the means of production
What do you mean?
The means of production were owned by the workers
May I continue?
So
Bolsheviks gave the big landlords' property to the peasants who divided it equally
But these small farms weren't effective enough and couldn't supply Russia with all the food it needed
But communists had to deal with it during the NEP
how were they when the people who owned the means of production were not allowed to sell their productions?
Ownership =/= right to sell
How can you sell anything if you're the only possible owner?
The government can still block private owners from selling under capitalism, if it wishes. So that isn't really relevant @Adoring Fan
This too
So
Capitalist America is hella comfy
During the NEP communists allowed private enterprises to rebuild the country ASAP