what ever happened to workers owned the means of production

What do you mean?

The means of production were owned by the workers

May I continue?

So

Bolsheviks gave the big landlords' property to the peasants who divided it equally

But these small farms weren't effective enough and couldn't supply Russia with all the food it needed

But communists had to deal with it during the NEP

how were they when the people who owned the means of production were not allowed to sell their productions?

Ownership =/= right to sell

How can you sell anything if you're the only possible owner?

The government can still block private owners from selling under capitalism, if it wishes. So that isn't really relevant @Adoring Fan

This too

So

Capitalist America is hella comfy

During the NEP communists allowed private enterprises to rebuild the country ASAP

@Fuju if it wishes, yet it doesn't do that nearly to the extent that the soviet union did.

So what?

NEP was actually a policy of state capitalism like in China today

The workers still owned the mp, and that's what matters regarding your original question.

then what is the merit of owning the means of production? You can do nothing with it

@GucciToiletSalesman not really no.

You can take part in deciding how the money should be spent

You do realise that question would apply to both private and publicly owned means of production, right? @Adoring Fan

@Advocatus Diaboli that is like saying you can take part in elections. Your one vote changes nothing

^

So what?

Are elections useless?

How is that even comparable

elections are useless, yes

democracy is a false god

I forgot you're a fascist

Hope you guys have fun debating while I play some nice video games

Lol

Enjoy

What games and what platform?

it doesn't matter if I'm a fascist or not, that is besides the point

democracy is a wholly failed system

There is a reason all 3 of Aristotle, Plato and Socrates hated it

Bourgeois democracy is indeed a failure

But it's the best existing system so far