Message from @Adoring Fan

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2018-05-28 16:00:13 UTC  

if they didnt give all their works to the state of course

2018-05-28 16:00:17 UTC  

2.5 million died because of 1932-33 famine

2018-05-28 16:00:22 UTC  

>2,5m

2018-05-28 16:00:26 UTC  

ecks dee

2018-05-28 16:00:31 UTC  

In the entire USSR

2018-05-28 16:00:32 UTC  

GOMMUNISM

2018-05-28 16:00:37 UTC  

being this delusional

2018-05-28 16:00:43 UTC  

There were famines in the Soviet Union during 1920, 1924, 1936, 1946, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1984.
1901, 1906, 1921, 1939, 1948, 1951, 1957, 1975, 1995.
1911, 1931, 1963, 1965, 1991.

2018-05-28 16:00:46 UTC  

Pls shut up everyone so I can explain

2018-05-28 16:01:05 UTC  

as many as 15 million people died in the holodomor

2018-05-28 16:01:07 UTC  

go ahead

2018-05-28 16:01:09 UTC  

We are waiting

2018-05-28 16:01:12 UTC  

this isnt voice chat

2018-05-28 16:01:17 UTC  

you arent interrupted here

2018-05-28 16:01:44 UTC  

Russian Empire had been having famines every 2 or 3 years

2018-05-28 16:01:50 UTC  

no but his arguments are gonna end up lost if its just a mess of anti-coms typing, let him speak

2018-05-28 16:02:13 UTC  

Go ahead I'm listening

2018-05-28 16:02:20 UTC  

They began taking food away from peasants in 1916 beacuse of food shortages and speculating

2018-05-28 16:02:27 UTC  

Then the Civil War started

2018-05-28 16:02:50 UTC  

Of because of the war, you know, just a little something called WW1

2018-05-28 16:03:00 UTC  

ah i see so the EMPIRE took food but the Communists didn't

2018-05-28 16:03:01 UTC  

Russian industry was small, so they couldn't produce goods for trade and had to concentrate on making weapons

2018-05-28 16:03:02 UTC  

I see

2018-05-28 16:03:06 UTC  

excellent reasoning

2018-05-28 16:03:17 UTC  

even though prior to the revolution

2018-05-28 16:03:26 UTC  

Russia was the second fastest growing economy in the world

2018-05-28 16:03:27 UTC  

So communists had to adopt these policies as well

2018-05-28 16:03:33 UTC  

"policies"

2018-05-28 16:03:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/450690644315340810/image.png

2018-05-28 16:03:50 UTC  

that's a really thuggish way of saying "lets kill off millions of people because they dont give us their wheat"

2018-05-28 16:04:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/450690737638604800/image.png

2018-05-28 16:04:05 UTC  

what ever happened to workers owned the means of production

2018-05-28 16:04:31 UTC  

What do you mean?

2018-05-28 16:04:53 UTC  

The means of production were owned by the workers

2018-05-28 16:05:07 UTC  

May I continue?

2018-05-28 16:05:15 UTC  

So

2018-05-28 16:05:45 UTC  

Bolsheviks gave the big landlords' property to the peasants who divided it equally

2018-05-28 16:06:23 UTC  

But these small farms weren't effective enough and couldn't supply Russia with all the food it needed

2018-05-28 16:06:46 UTC  

But communists had to deal with it during the NEP

2018-05-28 16:06:58 UTC  

how were they when the people who owned the means of production were not allowed to sell their productions?

2018-05-28 16:07:19 UTC  

Ownership =/= right to sell