Message from @Yellowhammer

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2018-09-23 01:53:07 UTC  

Ultimately, we'll have to wait for election night but I highly doubt it'll be as bad as that.

2018-09-23 01:53:18 UTC  

Incumbents that poll below 50% within the MOE during wave years generally lose.

2018-09-23 01:53:40 UTC  

And we have lots of those...

2018-09-23 01:56:40 UTC  

There will be a few bright spots come November but ultimately the outcome is pretty much laid in stone. The writing is all over the wall.

2018-09-23 01:57:36 UTC  

We haven’t lead the GCB in any meaningful way in a very long time, and Trump’s approvals according to the vast majority of polls are really bad.

2018-09-23 01:57:57 UTC  

We've beaten the odds before

2018-09-23 01:57:58 UTC  

Well, according to the aggregate, yes.

2018-09-23 01:58:06 UTC  

Don't write off the House, but I do agree we are the underdogs there

2018-09-23 01:58:16 UTC  

But that aggregate is including rather nonsensical polls like the +14 we saw the other day.

2018-09-23 01:58:29 UTC  

Nate Bronze gives us a 1 in 5 chance?

2018-09-23 01:58:33 UTC  

20% happens sometimes

2018-09-23 01:59:00 UTC  

Some give 20, some 25, some around 40.

2018-09-23 01:59:16 UTC  

I think it’s about 5

2018-09-23 01:59:23 UTC  

5%?

2018-09-23 01:59:35 UTC  

5% is too low

2018-09-23 01:59:37 UTC  

*rolls eyes*

2018-09-23 01:59:41 UTC  

if you look at FiveThirtyEights model

2018-09-23 01:59:47 UTC  

you must be fun at parties

2018-09-23 01:59:48 UTC  

the number of seats Democrats are ahead in isn't as much as you think

2018-09-23 02:00:01 UTC  

the reason their odds are good, is because they have a 25% chance or so in a bunch of seats

2018-09-23 02:02:41 UTC  

@[Lex] I could be a lot worse. Many of the Dems at US Election Atlas un ironically think that the Dems will pick up 80+ seats. Some think that Mo Brooks, Steve King, and Katie Arrington will lose

2018-09-23 02:03:05 UTC  

I have the most “optimistic” house rating amongst all of them probably

2018-09-23 02:07:21 UTC  

Obama's approval rating in 2014 was worse than Trump's current rating, according to rcp. This gave the generic ballot 5.7 R. Factor in boomer chads and hopefully lower minority turnout and the dems should do worse. Factor in gerry mandering and their opportunity to pick up seats looks pretty bad. The only reason I'm nervous is the raw strength of their generic ballot polling.

2018-09-23 02:18:07 UTC  

what's up with Utah?

2018-09-23 02:18:20 UTC  

as much as Romney is establishment on a lot of issues, he's actually pretty reasonable on immigration

2018-09-23 02:18:47 UTC  

the fact that he's in a Safer-than-Safe race and is still running against illegal immigration tells you something

2018-09-23 02:23:18 UTC  

I'm hoping for a Romney redemption arc. It was cool as fuck to see Romney say "I was even harder on illegal immigration than Trump back in 2012 because I opposed DACA." Since he's in an extremely safe seat his only opportunity for career advancement will be to be pro-Trump, so even if he cucks out on something it'll be a different type of cucking out than those guys who are (((moderates))) to get reelected.

2018-09-23 02:23:52 UTC  

Romney on the issues wasn't too bad in 2012

2018-09-23 02:24:04 UTC  

strong on immigration, he wanted to label China a currency manipulator, etc.

2018-09-23 02:24:21 UTC  

if you look at the areas he gained ground in, those were the same areas Trump improved a lot in

2018-09-23 02:24:46 UTC  

my parents backed him in the primary in 2008

2018-09-23 02:26:14 UTC  

Romney didn't win Whites by 20, closer to 17

2018-09-23 02:26:26 UTC  

He only got like 57%, and I know Obama cleared 40%

2018-09-23 02:26:40 UTC  

Romney did slightly better than Trump in absolute terms among Whites, but did worse margin wise

2018-09-23 02:26:48 UTC  

and Trump had a far better distribution

2018-09-23 02:27:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444207280855187466/493246893044793344/whitevoteshift2012to2016estimate.png

2018-09-23 02:27:11 UTC  

gained votes in states that mattered, lost them in states that didn't

2018-09-23 02:30:36 UTC  

ehh, I don't know about that

2018-09-23 02:30:54 UTC  

that relies on exit poll estimates of the composition of the electorate, which are faulty

2018-09-23 02:31:00 UTC  

one second, I think there was an article about this