But

No you can't ducking have t both ways, polls either apply or they dont

"Every time we see one poll that helps us, we get so happy, but all the other ones our response is "muh they're just polls""

no, when I see a poll that favors us, I argue that it shows that polls aren't supporting the left's narrative as much as they want. Polls favoring GOP are not to be trusted either

don't put words in our mouth

they do but we shouldn't shut down opportunities because of it

basically, if one subscribes to the idea that polls are super reliable, then they have to accept GOP favored polls as well

this has revealed a new opportunity to us

now, I don't view them as reliable, ergo I'm not "happy" when I see them come out in our favor

I don't rely on them at all, they're all bullshit, the only worthy polls I think are policy polls.

How are they all bullshit?

Historical evidence is much more reliable than polls

you want to hear some historical evidence

@ThatRightWingFish the vast majority of polls said that is was impossible for trump to carry PA WI and MI

let's pretend it's October, 2016

Ok

Why the hell is Trump campaigning in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania? A republican hasn't won there since 1992, the trends show Democrats winning them for decades.

As I said, it's because of the positions Trump ran on which allowed him to win there. The trend argument upholds itself, because the trend was a generic republican can't win those states because of the positions of the party.

It's not the trend of the result, it's the all the context involved

but Republicans don't win there

That's not true

exactly

PA state house is republican

so is MN

Eh

Those are all RINOs

If you actually look their their state reps

They're really not anywhere near the republican you want them to be

well it's still majority R isn't it

Also their state senate is democrat

Lol you're pussy footing with that

That argument would mean we Flake and McCain stand for good right wit policy because they have an (R) next to their name

it's about our opportunity

Who said they were perfect?

No one

What we possibly could win. I'm not saying MN is a red state, but it is absolutely not impossible to win MN or NJ.

My point is, the trend argument is well substantiated because historical evidence is always more reliable than modern polls

2018 is our beg

Bet*

for what

It's staying blue

MN?

Yeah