Message from @FLanon

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2018-08-05 17:01:58 UTC  

Hopefully, we win OH-12 this week

2018-08-05 17:02:12 UTC  

Yeah we need that

2018-08-05 17:02:39 UTC  

It's like PA-18 on a lesser scale tbh

2018-08-05 17:03:13 UTC  

Trade + Wall will definitely satisfy the base, some foreign affairs victories like maybe a denuke treaty with North Korea will also help us out a lot with general approval which could also help us.

2018-08-05 17:03:56 UTC  

Chuck you Todd, discussed the blue advantages in statesTrump won, based on turn out. Then was forced to say that the GOP had more votes. Go figure

2018-08-05 17:04:12 UTC  

About 62% of the American population believes that Kim Jong Un will never denuclearize, if Trump can do it, that will be most of the population that will be pleasantly surprised by what Trump's done.

2018-08-05 17:06:46 UTC  

Another thing about NK is this is an accomplishment that is absolutely based on Trump and his attitude. Someone with Clinton, Bush, and Obama's temperment could never get this very hard issue done. Trump used the "he's crazy" media narrative to his advantage, along with leveraging China to drop support of NK to get them to the summit. He is also not relenting whatsoever on the sanctions, which is good. We shouldn't relent until we get a binding treaty for North Korea to have complete, verifiable, and irreversible denuclearization as a baseline for further negotiation.

2018-08-05 17:09:40 UTC  

Exactly! This is not going to happen overnight, nor without a few bumps in the road. I do know this, appeasement is not the answer. Why should America be bound by a country the size of Rhode Island?

2018-08-05 17:10:56 UTC  

Kim is an individual that cannot be trusted.

2018-08-05 17:11:27 UTC  

Yep, the NK situation isn't even the most complicated issue when it comes to foreign affairs, they're fairly isolated, and they have a single lifeline. Iran is probably the more difficult one to deal with.

2018-08-05 17:14:08 UTC  

When it comes to the Iran deal we left, it wasn't bilaterally between the US and Iran, a lot of European countries and Russia IIRC are still active in the Iran nuclear deal. It's very hard to get everyone to come around against Iran the same way with North Korea. It's much more complicated, much less cared about by normies at the momeng, but ultimately in the long run it could be much more important than North Korea to solve, the last thing anyone wants is nuclear proliferation in the middle east.

2018-08-05 17:14:21 UTC  

That’s where America must stand with the resistance of the mullahs. Chaos can be made to our advantage

2018-08-05 17:15:23 UTC  

Yeah, that's the important thing.

2018-08-05 17:16:23 UTC  

Of course, we cannot be the world police, but we can support change for independence

2018-08-05 17:16:38 UTC  

Iran has a higher level of quality of life than NK, they're also (relatively) more open than NK, which also makes revolt more likely. The key to Iran won't be full economic collapse, it'll be scaring the Iranian leadership with the idea that the people will overthrow them.

2018-08-05 17:17:42 UTC  

Power is a frightening thing to loose. Look at Hillary. Lmao!

2018-08-05 17:18:48 UTC  

I don't have much hope in NK but it's still good to be hopeful

2018-08-05 17:19:54 UTC  

Well, the thing about NK, is we can make it glow like a lighthouse warning sailors of rocks. 👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣

2018-08-05 17:20:12 UTC  

JK

2018-08-05 17:20:33 UTC  

To me the Iran issue is much less about independence and a lot more about nuclear nonproliferation. I really don't care who they have as a leader, I care if they are going to build up a nuclear stockpile because now the Saudis are threatening to build up their own nuclear stockpile, that will be very bad. Imagine a terrorist organization gaining control of a nuclear warhead. It would be disastrous. Another thing with Iran is they also may be the key to peace in the middle east if we can get them to the table. If we can get them to a joint conference with the Saudis and the Israelis, along with Russia which now is a major player in the middle east, then we could get a big peace deal to solve the conflicts that have been brewing there like the Syrian Civil War, the Yemeni Civil War, etc.

2018-08-05 17:21:21 UTC  

@Allen46 The thing though is we absolutely can, making people like Kim believe that we will consider that as a serious option is the key. We have to scare them to the table, not beg them to the table.

2018-08-05 17:29:06 UTC  

I agree that the Iranians could be a key to peace. Such a complicated issue, the civil war in Syria is still being supported by Iranian fighters as well. It’s just a screwed up mess. I believe that death and destruction is in their DNA

2018-08-05 17:29:28 UTC  

Just a very difficult topic

2018-08-05 17:30:49 UTC  

We can what if all day, but I believe huge change is the only answer. I fear it won’t be a diplomatic change

2018-08-05 17:34:47 UTC  

I believe we can get it done, it's all about fear and leverage. The worst thing that can happen is Iran's instability causes a civil war and proxy war, which will end up creating tons of new terror groups in its wake, a refugee crisis bigger than the one with Syria, we only should want destabilization to the point of making them scared enough to flock to the table.

2018-08-05 17:56:16 UTC  

It just boils dow to the Middle East is one screwed up mess and Iran got some 1.9 billion from US along with pallets of cash sent in unmarked planes. Something you’d only see in movies, that is become a reality. Crazy

2018-08-05 17:56:17 UTC  

🆙 | **Allen46 leveled up!**

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2018-08-05 17:56:55 UTC  

The economy is booming around me.

2018-08-05 17:57:20 UTC  

More help wanted and hiring now signs than ever.

2018-08-05 17:58:00 UTC  

Nice

2018-08-05 17:58:24 UTC  

@Pielover19 Didn't Wallace have a strict Welfare Policy?

2018-08-05 17:58:33 UTC  

Everything is a whole lot more crowded, too. New businesses opening and all.

2018-08-05 17:58:37 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-08-05 17:58:57 UTC  

Similar to Trump kinda

2018-08-05 17:58:59 UTC  

He was a real capitalist.

2018-08-05 17:59:03 UTC  

Work or GTFO

2018-08-05 18:00:11 UTC  

Need to make that a bumper sticker. Lol

2018-08-05 18:10:27 UTC  

These deals Trump's gonna have with all of these nations really are going to put the economy on overdrive. Equalizing trade has done so much good for us already, steel is back and the Chinese are selling their real estate in NYC because now they have a deficit. Once we get both an equal playing field and much less trade barriers, we'll have a crazy export boom, manufacturing is going to go through the roof, the economy in general will skyrocket, if you thought 4.1 was good, trust me, it can go a lot higher than that.

2018-08-05 19:16:55 UTC  

I think that's overly optimistic, I doubt we're going to have an export boom, we'll still be heavily reliant on imports, manufacturing won't comeback unless you stop raising minimum wage and deregulate, which is debatable if is happening.

2018-08-05 19:17:40 UTC  

Also I don't think Steel "is back" China still out produces and sells us by substantial amounts in steel, and I don't think our steel industry has really recovered that much at all.