Message from @Red Storm (in NYC)

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2018-01-12 21:56:10 UTC  

is this one in general?

2018-01-12 21:56:32 UTC  

hello and welcome to data

2018-01-13 00:48:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401223003779760168/401538063802564638/midterms_historical.png

2018-01-13 01:13:39 UTC  

So based on that, it looks like there might be a blue wave?

2018-01-13 01:41:18 UTC  

yes, but again, it can be minimized

2018-01-13 02:53:00 UTC  

What makes the midterms flip to the opposite party of the President that was elected before it?

2018-01-13 02:57:31 UTC  

midterms are seen as referendums on the ruling party

2018-01-13 02:58:09 UTC  

the opposition party usually has higher turnout because their voters are motivated to stop the ruling party's agenda

2018-01-14 22:44:00 UTC  

Virginia election data

2018-01-15 02:30:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401223003779760168/402288304516628481/data.png

2018-01-31 21:45:20 UTC  

D+2.9: R 236; D 199
D+5.9: R 231; D 204
D+7.9: R 225 ; D 210
D+9.9: R 218; D 217
D+12.9: R 196; D 239

2018-02-01 00:28:06 UTC  

I have read that the Libertarians caused the Democrat Pickup in 2016

2018-02-01 00:33:38 UTC  

Which Democrat pickup?

2018-02-01 00:34:08 UTC  

Trump probably would have won in New Hampshire and Nevada were it not for the Libertarians

2018-02-01 00:34:16 UTC  

he also could have won Minnesota

2018-02-01 00:34:18 UTC  

I doubt that

2018-02-01 00:34:51 UTC  

The type of people who voted for gary weren't potential MAGA guys, I can tell you that.

2018-02-01 00:38:00 UTC  

why not ?

2018-02-01 00:38:12 UTC  

Trump has libertarian appeal

2018-02-01 00:38:37 UTC  

Styxhexenhammer666 was originally planning to vote for Johnson but decided to choose Trump

2018-02-01 00:38:50 UTC  

they were more the lulzy "haha fuck trump and clinton" type of libertarians, the people who say and are proud of being third party for the sake of being third party.

2018-02-01 00:39:04 UTC  

@FLanon yeah I'm familiar with those types

2018-02-01 00:39:07 UTC  

I think the vast majority of those people wouldn't have voted otherwise

2018-02-01 00:39:26 UTC  

but I think there are people who voted for Johnson who would have been willing to vote for Trump if the libertarian presence wasn't as strong

2018-02-01 00:40:01 UTC  

Now if Ron Paul or someone of that nature was running on the Libertarian ticket, I'd be humming a different tune. That may have stolen votes.

2018-02-01 00:40:41 UTC  

also, Evan McMullin stole enough votes in Minnesota that you could say it would have gone to Trump otherwise

2018-02-01 00:40:43 UTC  

the Never Trump movement and the mormon cia candidate stole Minnesota

2018-02-01 00:40:48 UTC  

hivemind

2018-02-01 00:42:35 UTC  

by a margin of 10,000 if every McMullin vote went to Trump he would've won MN, but I doubt that 6/7 McMullin voters would've went for Trump

2018-02-01 00:43:21 UTC  

NeverTrumpers, the such

2018-02-02 00:32:41 UTC  

It's been proven at this point that McMullin proved Minnesota to swing to the Democrats, by the good old "Nader stole Florida." metric.

2018-02-02 00:33:34 UTC  

I can't tell if it's for better or for worse that the USA didn't have a Canadian-style Reform Party takeover, on that note.

2018-02-02 00:35:15 UTC  

The Progressive Conservatives in Canada were essentially replaced by their Ross Perot supporting counterparts in Canada, due to the fact that electing the Reform Party of Canada required electing a Reform legislature.

2018-02-02 00:35:53 UTC  

In other words, Ross Perot lost because he could never control Congress. Reform Canada won because precisely the opposite was true--Commons elects the Prime Minister.

2018-02-02 00:36:34 UTC  

But if Ross Perot became President in 1992 or 1996, would we have a Justin Trudeau like monster today?

2018-02-02 00:37:42 UTC  

The Canadian Tories, formed by the merger of the Reform/CA party with the Prog. Cons., have been failing to outlaw abortion and gay marriage pretty much continuously for decades.

2018-02-02 00:38:03 UTC  

And they can actually just suspend human rights and ban those things in Canada, as their Supreme Court is weak.

2018-02-02 00:38:31 UTC  

And they didn't even disclose Canadian immigration stats until they were leaked by dissidents under Trudeau