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I'm a leftist. I still think you guys are going to win both the Senate and the House. At the very least the whole midterm will be a wash
Nelson, Donnelly, Heitkamp are all very vulnerable moderate Democrats in Trump-winning states
But then again, Trump was running up against Hillary, so it might not be a good indicator
@Red Storm (in NYC) that's like saying Texas is going to vote in Beto. Not happening most likely
Does anyone have the chart where it shows which Senators are up for grabs
Who cares about California though; It's a blue state for the most part (fortunately for me)
But the only two states Republicans have to worry about are Arizona and Nevada
Idk that much about the House races
Is Joe Arpaio running for Senate in Arizona? Will Arizona become blue or stay red?
That's only if the majority of the people are evangelicals in Minnesota. I don't see how any liberal or maybe any moderate conservative would vote Bachmann
But in general, the midterms are probably going to be a Red Wave or just a stalemate. IDK how a Blue Wave might happen
"Soccer moms" are prevalent in the Midwest though, so I doubt its about who the people are more than the party they are currently in
Well, there was a resurgence of Tea Partiers at that time. Idk if there is going to be a progressive/populist resurgence this year
Not if the Democrats are moderate Democrats though. Donnelly for instance is probably a more right-wing Democrat. Same with Manchin and Heitkamp
I don't understand why Democrats think that just because Alabama nearly went to Jones that somehow this is a referendum against Trump. Jones nearly won against a Pedo
Actually, the problem with Beto's campaign is that it isn't as funded as much as Ted Cruz's campaign. Many people don't know O Rourke, but a lot of them know Ted Cruz.
Democrats know very well that Texas is a goner and are not aiding them as much as the Reps are with Cruz
As a leftist, I know it's not true. Ted Cruz isn't as hated by Texas as Roy Moore was in Alabama
I mean, two of the governorships went towards Democrats this year (although they are neoliberal corporatists)
I'm both fiscally and socially liberal.
Didn't Warren vote for like 80 million dollars in aid towards some War?
Yeah. I think Warren isn't really a progressive. Maybe on some issues but others not so much
But I wouldn't trust the media on whether or not hter will be a blue or red sweep. CNN, Fox, MSMBC are all biased in their own ways
And most of them dont report on the grassroots campaign (Progressives and Social Democrats from CNN and MSNBC/Austrians and Libertarians from Fox)
Polls are retarded, but most people look at the polls and no the candidate's voting history anyways so thats what the media goes for
But yeah, Indiana looks like its going red definitely, Florida and North Dakota are probably going to go red, and IDK about the rest of the states (in terms of the Senate)
I'd honestly laugh if Senator Menendez is still in the Senate even after the corruption trial and being faced with al those charges
@🎃Boo-ton🎃 IDK about West Virginia. Manchin won by a pretty significant margin last senate election, even though West Virginia is a mostly red state.
Also, are there any more political discord groups I can join
So based on that, it looks like there might be a blue wave?
What makes the midterms flip to the opposite party of the President that was elected before it?
Rick Scott is running? Didn't know that
Thoughts on Austin Petersen running for MO Senate?
I mean, its Virginia, one of the more blue states.
You have to ask though, did people vote for Trump because they actually like his policies, or did people vote for Trump because they were against Clinton
Yeah, so methinks people just didn't like Hillary and didn't vote, but its different with the midterms, since there is essentially no democrat that is more loathed than Hillary
IDK I'm not really looking for a red storm since i'm a lefty but its pretty interesting to see what you guys think
Media coverage helped a lot with that though @FLanon . Media shilled for Hillary 24/7 and was biased for her.
Probably "for the lols" since its Trump
lmao just wondering do you guys think Nehlen is going to beat Ryan during the primaries
Didn't he lose quite a lot to Ryan last midterm?
lmao I was thinking that as well. Nehlen doesn't talk like a radical right-winger or seems like one
Looking at some of the interviews
Oh yeah. Macron is nowhere near left wing. He's more neoliberal, sort of like the Clintons
Why do McCain and Flake both have low approval ratings in AZ? Will it turn blue or at least purple?
I thought they had low approval ratings because AZ is shifting more liberal idk
Also, Ted Cruz is hated with both the Republicans and Democrats, but he's really popular here in TX
Senate Republicans and Democrats*
He's a former libertarians going Republican so he's pretty popular among the Libertarian crowd
So in that way Hillary Clinton would've been way better for Republicans because they would be in the House and Senate
Do /pol/fags actually believe in shit like white nationalism, the Jewish Question, etc. or is it just a meme
Right, but are most of them legitimately pushing for a white ethnostate, questioning how Jews run everything, etc. or are they just LARPing for whatever reason
I wouldn't trust polls since they can be very ambiguous.
tbh the Media should just tell what each politicians' voting record is instead of shoving polls saying who is in the lead, so people can make decisiosn based on policy not advancing whatever politician is ahead
>tfw I don't think that Chelsea Manning isn't necessarily a bad choice for the US Senate
Yeah. Most of the Democratic establishment is shilling against her hard.
Even if she wins or loses, as long as she exposes the corrupt elite agenda of the surveillance state, the war crimes committed by the US, etc. I'd say its a win
But realistically speaking, she's going to probably lose to Cardin anyways
I mean, they are 3 of the most vulnerable Democratic Senators in red states, so its no wonder they are trying to save face by preventing a shutdown
Even though its likely that Cruz will win Texas, It's a bit too early. There might be some controversies from now until November that might cost him
But one question, are both the Republican challengers to NY and Massachusetts relatively popular or relatively unknown
Also, how is the situation coming along with Ohio and Sherrod Brown? Is there another Republican challenger that can possibly unseat him? I know Mandel dropped out and the other dude didn't want to join
Ok, because another factor to consider with TX is that Beto is relatlvely unknown, while Ted is very well known in TX which could aid him.
Does anyone have the link to who is racing against who in the House and Senate?
Right, but I want the link where it showed who all the possible candidates were running against each state so far. I believe it was one of the links on the midterms thread
I believe it the homepage was green
Oh yeah, going back to the race in Maryland, do you know who the Republican candidate is? A former CIA agent
Meaning, if Manning gets elected in the primaries, she would be up against a CIA agent. So Manning would probably have the upper hand rofl
Oh yeah definitely. Cardin is a shill to Israel and expanding NSA surveillance
I said earlier I was socially and fiscally liberal
a lot or more programs but less taxes and more government spending
taxes don't fund government spending
whats wrong with the debt? what's wrong with the deficit for that matter
When interest rates go up, the government pays more into the debt by increasing the deficit. And because the federal deficit is private sector savings, it will stimulate the economy depending on who is holding the bonds
Also with regard to the interest rates, we don't really know whether or not it will speed up or slow down the economy
I guess I would fall more towards Keynes, but I guess I would be a post-Keynesian, more specifically someone who follows MMT
Also with regard to whether or not a debt level is sustainable or not, just know that we can never go bankrupt with our own money, since we the US gov is the currency issuer, not the user.
One main function of taxes is to regulate our spending power
But regardless, if you mean "devaluing" as in inflation, then I think its a bit exaggerated
It's poorly understood is what I meant to say. Inflation isn't always caused by government spending
I would say unemployment is a way bigger problem tbh
I would agree with that; It would certainly cause an inflationary crises if we all just went and funded free college, medicaid, etc. in one night
In general the government should be held responsible to avoid any price inflation when competing for scarce resources, but at the same time make sure we have decent living standards and full employment
There are constraints that we should be worried about; inflation and resources are two of them. But whether or not we can pay for it is not one of them
IE the problem with social security isn't whether or not we will run out of money, but it is if there are enough labor output and resources for everyone on social security to buy what they want without any scarcity. This is why full employment is essential
Not as well versed on social issues as I am on other issues, but I'm socially liberal.
progressive kind of liberal i guess
I don't mind people taking pride of their country, but when it just outright distracts people from issues facing the country then I would have to be against that.
I think I know what you mean by globalism. I think of it as neoliberalism
Yeah, neoliberalism is disastrous
Oh that's not what I was thinking of. I was thinking more along the lines of putting the elite's interest over that of the people
I don't know much about it, but I guess I'm fine? Don't really have an opinion on it other than as long as you respect others I respect you
Again, with regard to welfare, just know that your tax money is not going towards government spending. We don't have a scarce amount of money, so it doesn't really matter if that latino immigrant takes more welfare money than an another person
Oh yeah I was going to say that Manchin looks like he won't be running for Senate again this year
Manchin isn't progressive by any means and he might have not voted blue all the time, but he still leaned quite Democratic. The only reason Manchin won was because he ran on coal
And to be honest, Manchin is probably the only WV Democrat who could beat WV Republican. IDK about the progressive alternative, Paula Swearengin
And it doesn't look like Swearengin isn't running on coal, since it is quite anti-progressive
tbh the best way to avoid the press if you were an elected official is to be a typical Republican or a Democrat who always votes party line, preferably in a state that few people care about.
Thoughts on Bachmann not running for Senate?
Thoughts on Bachmann opting out of running for the Senate?
Is Minnesota going to be a safe blue, or is there a really good Republican
Also is Ohio going to be a safe blue, since Mandel dropped out and that filmmaker isn't running?
When I mean safe I mean safe in terms of the Senate just in case you got confused
Daily reminder that Clinton is literally the worst candidate that the Democrats had to offer
So it would probably make sense why a district that dramatically voted for Trump in the 201 election went for a moderate Dem to represent their district this year
What's going on? Why isn't Rick Scott running as senator for Florida yet?
is AZ going to become blue since Flake isn't running again and McCain's probably going to die from brain cancer
how do you guys feel about leftists like me just curious
So as long as they have a moderate-right stance on immigration (they can have a hardcore left stance on every other stance), you're fine with that?
well I'm not too educated on immigration beyond making sure that both immigrants and citizens are protected. Pretty sure most of the Mexicans are fleeing Mexico from the War on Drugs but I could be wrong
tbh the only reason im in this discord is because im interested in what you guys have to say about the midterm elections coming up.
@🎃Boo-ton🎃 Nah. IDK what to do with all the info in the midterms thread.
TBH I think it's the actions abroad that destabilize their cities is what makes people migrate to other countries. The most glaring example being the wars going on in the Middle East
Neoliberalism and Neoconservatism are both cancer
lol are you talking about Paul Nehlen?
I assume the bottom picture is what it looks like if Maryland was redistricted?
Probably going to get shat on for this, but running a federal surplus is going to be very harmful to our economy
Clinton helped set up the stage for the financial crisis by running up huge surpluses, leaving the private sector to run a deficit. Bush brought that back down when his deficit helped us grow like around 5% of the GDP, but the private sector moved back to taking on deficits due to lender fraud.
Politically, having large public debt isn't the problem. Having large private debt is. If you want single-income families or double-income families to be viable, then you want them to save and invest more. I agree that tax cuts on the lower and middle income class is great but so is increasing government spending.
Either way, my point is that government spending into the economy is what helps drive the private sector savings, and it is up the congress to appropriate the budget so that the money is used for the public good rather than just a few people
But if you're interested in it, search up Modern Monetary Theory
Inflation is a problem and that's what we should be focused on, not deficits or balancing the budget. However, inflation usually isn't a problem if the money being spent out in the government is used to reinvigorate idle capacity like human resources, goods, services, etc.
That's a quite simple explanation but if you want to read up on what MMT thinks of inflation, just read this article (unfortunately its kind of long) http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=10554
I'll talk to you more about this later since I am busy atm
Who is the GOP candidate for Maryland
So a whistleblower vs a CIA officer. classic
If Manning wins the primaries somehow, she does have a shot against the CIA boi if she exposes what our government is doing
I mean, it's pretty much a given if I was in Maryland I would vote Manning, but if I was someone who voted for Trump I would not vote for a neocon
Neocons like McCain, Cotton, Graham and Rubio need to gtfo
The dude is very hawkish when it comes to Iran
Ok so for you guys your main focus is on immigration. Are there any other issues you are focused on or is it just immigration
I need to find a leftypol discord since I can't really connect with you guys
Other than just talking about midterms
I'm not as heavily invested in the midterms as you guys are, just interesting to have a discussion
And I've even stated that I was a lefty several times now lol
lmao I mean it doesn't really matter. I was hoping to talk about midterms and politics really.
All I'm going to do that is remotely "blue wave" is just vote for Dems in the midterm elections
I'm not really a Democrat as I find most democrats to be corporatist neoliberals, but it there is a candidate that I think is worth voting for I'm voting for him or her
can't tell if you're being serious or not, Culberson isn't unpopular and served in the district for quite some time now
But again, I follow the Senate more than the House so
Depends who the D is in the district.
lmao you guys are acting like Im some kind of a special person and can't hear you guys. "He can be persuaded" "He can become one of us"
How is it a battleground district? Most of the people in the district are rich urbanites living in the River Oaks areas. Most of them are apathetic or vote Republican
I see. But there are special districts where Trump won by a huge margin and the Dems won this year
Also according to ballotpedia it's not even considered a battleground
globalism and open borders and mutliculturalism obviously
Really its just what progressives want. No more wars abroad, stronger economy, healthy society where people actually have access to free college, medicare, etc.
lmao a police state is the last thing I want or any progressive wants for that matter
How is free college, expanded medicaid, better infrastructure, etc. going to make society poorer?
fine. how is free college and expanded medicare going to make society poorer?
Believe it or not, tax dollars aren't used for government expenditures, especially for the United States since we are monetary sovereign
Taxes are used for other reasons such as regulating aggregate demand, but not for investing in public goods and services
We can essentially have "free college" since the federal government is going to check the college, and that money will be used to invest in the college infrastructure, college professors, etc. etc.
But our politicians keep on peddling the neoliberal bullshit that we are somehow limited on the amount of money we can have and we will somehow go bankrupt even though that hasn't been the case ever since we got off the gold standard.
Also, I never understood why conservatives aren't behind free college. The reason why most millenials have to delay major life decisions like getting married, buying a house, starting a nuclear family, etc. is because of the private debt they have to pay back from college, even those who are in STEM and business majors
You're right, but these are for people who actually worked their ass off to get into the college they want, only to either not go to college or have to go to a shittier one because they can't pay off the massive tuition fee that comes with it.
I'm for more opportunities when it comes to trade school though
I don't know any on here lmao. I legitimately am just by myself
But probably am start going to use it more often during the summer and midterm season
Realistically, I see O'Rourke losing
The anti-gun talk and pro-choice, as politically incorrect it is in Texas, is a huge turnoff
End the drug war if you want less Mexicans in Texas
Most of them are probably fleeing because Mexico is absolute shit anyway
Decriminalizing drug usage would be a good start if only the Texas legislators got off their high horse
Goldwater Conservatives are the worst
anyways im tired. I'll see you guys later
I think Dems will lose the Senate but win the house
There's too many vulnerable Dems in Red States and Trump's favorability ratings are going up
How vulnerable do you guys think the Red State Dem Senators are against the Repubs this season
I don't see West Virginia losing. Manchin is pretty popular there, and he won the senate race with 60% of the vote.
Florida is going to be highly contested, so I honestly consider that a tossup
Actually, I think Nevada will still be going to the Republicans, its just that Dean Heller won't be the Senator
Danny Tarkanian seems to resonate more with the Republicans than Heller is
Oh shit you're right. Forgot about that lol
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