I’d never bet my life on a piece of shit with less quality than a kids toy

It’s literally the ‘only wrong answers’ meme if you asked someone to design a radio

Lol

If you’re poor and that’s all you can do then so be it.

But if you can spend $$$thousands on a gun, and the radio you buy is a bingbong, that’s just out of ignorance

I'm far from a poor, but I still use them 🤷‍♂️

But again if I can get a good quality APX and still use the channels everyone is on, then that's what I'm gonna do

No argument about the failure rate

I’m proud to say I’ve never owned one. But the couple i programmed for a guy i hated the whole time.

I’d like to think I’d never buy one, but if i was given a couple i would keep them for random shit.

The fact they are dual band is nice, until recently that was an advantage only hams had. I tend to stick to vhf mostly for it’s range. But most of my sneaky small team shit tends to happen on uhf for various reasons. So really this 4000 for me is a holdover until i can get an 8000

Anyone on have experience with riot.im? https://about.riot.im/

Yeah, seems to be a good entry level into mission critical comms

Thanks for the info by the way

Sure happy to share

Just realized it's fucking 3am... I need to go to bed

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Has anybody seen this yet

@EDDSkitz @redbeard @Yeetasaurus Rex @[CA] SoyBoi - Dang it I missed a convo about my profession, I work on P25 terminals and sites. I'll just add this for now. If a radio can do P25 Trunked it should be able to do P25 Conventional. While I don't have much Moto exposure I do know this to be true for MA/COM, Tyco, Ericsson, Harris radios. So you can run encrypted comms via P25C if the modules are enabled and keys are loaded. Additionally, if FREQEDIT is enabled in the MA/COM, Tyco, Ericsson, Harris radios one can edit Tx/Rx frequencies and CTCSS tones (analog and P25C) with the keypad just like the Baofeng radios.

@KaiBran - I learned about "second" phone number apps from my son, who used them on his phone to prank his friends in 8th and 9th grade a few years ago. I tried one to see what is was about and found it useful to keep a level of anonyminity but not for much else.

Someone mustve already asked this but what free resources are available for studying for the amateurs license

@KaiBran - Get this app, it has the test questions in both a learning setting so you read all of them and then quiz mode where 35 are randomly selected. Keep quizing until you pass it repeatedly.

Awesome

This is a good resource for where to start as well.

@[VA] JediComms thanks man! I'm downloading it

@[VA] JediComms thanks for that... seems like moto has a special key loader hardware device. I'd have to get back with @redbeard on whether that's something I need to load keys or if it can be done software side. I'm gonna grab a few if these cheap APX radios for now and at least have the capability and still be able to run the usual frequencies I do now.

@EDDSkitz - Moto has the KVL 3000/4000/5000 to load keys with. You can buy a used 3000 on eBay for a few hundred dollars and make all the keys you want......and other manufacturers use the KVL to make keys for their radios, too.

I was looking at the 4k

Oh, nevermind... you're talking the keyloader

I'm looking g at the APX 4000 radios

Yeah, the ability to make your own keys on the fly has value all to itself.

Yeah, true

Right now I'd be the only one with one of these that I work with, so I'm gonna buy 2 radios and start there... at least I'll have the capability

This is my truck portable

Nice, I like harris as a manufacturer, but they are expensive

They are made in the US though right?

Assembled in the US using US and Japan Radio Company parts.

JRC makes a lot of comms part for many companies.

Nice, I try to order Japan as much as possible when it comes to electronics, fuck China

Is that XL200 you got there one if the "cheaper" models?