Message from @dedtekker86

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2020-05-01 03:52:04 UTC  

I don’t have the money for CATs honestly.

2020-05-01 03:52:51 UTC  

I feel ya. $30 a go its hard to sell them because i cant mark em up from cost really

2020-05-01 03:53:54 UTC  

There are external reasons.

2020-05-01 03:54:37 UTC  

Im not upset about it, i make money doing training, the shit i sell isnt where i make the $$

2020-05-01 04:00:02 UTC  

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ How about 1 CAT for your IFAK, and a couple of Grafkettes for the cheapskates?

https://www.mdsupplies.com/medical-supplies-Graham-Field-Grafkette-Tourniquet-S9KRGRWGFP.html

2020-05-01 04:00:16 UTC  

I want two for my IFAK.

2020-05-01 04:01:44 UTC  

Never see those before

2020-05-01 04:08:21 UTC  

I don’t honestly trust those.

2020-05-01 04:08:30 UTC  

They seem not much better than RATs.

2020-05-01 04:22:32 UTC  

Yes, the Grafs are less secure than the CATs but they will stop the bleeding as a temporary measure. They're not a CAT replacement. At Ft. Sam I learned to apply TQs high and tight on the limb first, then convert to a pressure bandage or TQ closer to the wound. Same principle applies to the Graf.

2020-05-01 04:27:56 UTC  

How wide are they?

2020-05-01 04:30:06 UTC  

Hey bois if we can hold off the big hootenanny for 4 more years I can patch you guys up as a physician

2020-05-01 04:30:24 UTC  

Though I’d like it to happen sooner

2020-05-01 04:30:25 UTC  

Like...surgery patching or?

2020-05-01 04:31:58 UTC  

@Benja if you only have 4 years left, you're probably good enough to work on me

2020-05-01 04:32:07 UTC  

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ about 3/4" wide. I've still got one from my time in the guard. It wasn't my only TQ.

2020-05-01 04:32:43 UTC  

Yeah no

2020-05-01 04:33:17 UTC  

TQs with a width that small have been found to cause nerve damage.

2020-05-01 04:33:56 UTC  

Like I said, temporary measure.

2020-05-01 04:36:45 UTC  

But still, nerve damage is not good in any circumstance.

2020-05-01 04:41:32 UTC  

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ I agree, but it's better than bleeding out.

2020-05-01 04:45:25 UTC  

Wouldn’t you have a good stream of CATs available as a 68W?

2020-05-01 04:54:36 UTC  

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ I carried multiple CATs in my aid bag, yes. The Graf I wrapped around my back belt loops for easy access.

2020-05-01 04:56:46 UTC  

Alright.

2020-05-01 05:03:00 UTC  

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ you’d be amazed at how bad the medical support logistics are in *some* units

2020-05-01 05:03:32 UTC  

I don’t know if I would

2020-05-01 05:03:42 UTC  

Considering how fucking stupid military is

2020-05-01 05:05:31 UTC  

Then again...I’ve been handing garbage bags full of medical before, or had a ammo can in front of the medical bay that you could grab fresh TQ’s from at your leisure

2020-05-01 05:05:59 UTC  

I want

2020-05-01 07:20:15 UTC  

As far as RATS goes

2020-05-01 07:20:19 UTC  

Ramseys are worse

2020-05-01 19:45:26 UTC  

The grafkette or however it was spelled (we just called them reusable tq’s) or only for starting iv’s in place of the normal rubber band style that comes in an iv start kit and for that matter you should invest in a NAR Boa

2020-05-01 19:48:35 UTC  

As far as hemorrhage control only CO-TCCC approved tq’s should be used. Rats cause nerve damage their only real claim to fame was portability and a false claim that they would fit on kids whereas CAT’s and others wouldn’t

2020-05-02 01:35:23 UTC  

I know a lot of people really love the sof-t wide, but I have a few and really just do not like them.

2020-05-02 01:36:55 UTC  

I prefer the sof t over the cat but only because it's what I learned on and what we carried in our trucks

2020-05-02 01:36:58 UTC  

They have better quality materials, yeah, but they just feel awkward. Maybes it because I’m so used to the cat tq, but nobody ever really gave me any real reason they preferred them other than “THATS WHAT SF USES” and even then,

2020-05-02 01:38:21 UTC  

What gets me with them is not using them on others, but myself. That and the whole “don’t grab the windlass when pulling it tight initially” like you can with a cat.

2020-05-02 01:43:43 UTC  

I think it honestly comes down to what you were trained with between the two

2020-05-02 01:44:29 UTC  

I can do one handed and send app with a sof t better than I can a cat, but again it's the only one I've really handled regularly

2020-05-02 01:47:44 UTC  

I definitely can not use a sof t one handed. They just feel that little bit more awkward to me, they never want to pull through tight enough for me to feel confident to start with the windlass. Always feels like there’s just that little bit too much slack.

2020-05-02 01:50:16 UTC  

It all comes down to practice I guess. Everytime I try to use a cat especially one handed the velcro hangs me up