Thanks for being around to help us.

No problem. How are you set on tourniquets? 😉

one 😦

I liked the Grafkette, it also doubled as a constricting band for giving IVs. Always had one on my belt loop.

I’m just gonna stick with CATs

And use the IV start kit ones to constrict for IV

CAT or SOFTTW

Like a dozen at least

Yes, CoTCCC recommended TQs.

One CAT for you, that works if everyone's got their own, which they should. Doesn't hurt to have extra. Also, the CAT breaks down under exposure to sunlight, so be sure to pack them away.

Too many high-speed operators put them on their MOLLE vests and had them break during crunch time.

Well...you’re also supposed to replace TQ’s like, often

Ive got 4 for me anyway, staged and covered away from UV light and uniform to rub away at shit

Got bags and bags with other medical. It is my 4th job so i have to lol

I don’t have the money for CATs honestly.

I feel ya. $30 a go its hard to sell them because i cant mark em up from cost really

There are external reasons.

Im not upset about it, i make money doing training, the shit i sell isnt where i make the $$

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ How about 1 CAT for your IFAK, and a couple of Grafkettes for the cheapskates?

https://www.mdsupplies.com/medical-supplies-Graham-Field-Grafkette-Tourniquet-S9KRGRWGFP.html

I want two for my IFAK.

Never see those before

I don’t honestly trust those.

They seem not much better than RATs.

Yes, the Grafs are less secure than the CATs but they will stop the bleeding as a temporary measure. They're not a CAT replacement. At Ft. Sam I learned to apply TQs high and tight on the limb first, then convert to a pressure bandage or TQ closer to the wound. Same principle applies to the Graf.

How wide are they?

Hey bois if we can hold off the big hootenanny for 4 more years I can patch you guys up as a physician

Though I’d like it to happen sooner

Like...surgery patching or?

@Benja if you only have 4 years left, you're probably good enough to work on me

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ about 3/4" wide. I've still got one from my time in the guard. It wasn't my only TQ.

Yeah no

TQs with a width that small have been found to cause nerve damage.

Like I said, temporary measure.

But still, nerve damage is not good in any circumstance.

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ I agree, but it's better than bleeding out.

Wouldn’t you have a good stream of CATs available as a 68W?

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ I carried multiple CATs in my aid bag, yes. The Graf I wrapped around my back belt loops for easy access.

Alright.

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ you’d be amazed at how bad the medical support logistics are in *some* units

I don’t know if I would

Considering how fucking stupid military is