I forgot where I heard this but there was one that went something along the lines of: shotgun pellets are like a party, it's only good if everyone shows up at the same place around the same time

unrelated, just thought it was funny

I’m headed into work for a few minutes, but I’ll link some DocGKR reference stuff in this chat later today

But essentially shot placement, penetration, expansion. That’s what you should care about, roughly in that order.

That reminds me of when I saw an ad for a single barrel break action 12 gauge at a store for $99.99 I was so bummed out I didn't have the money at the time.

Anyone ever run a magnifier for a red dot
I'm curious if it throws off accuracy and you have to re-Zero on the magnifier

I use one and the magnifier doesn't throw off accuracy.

I do. I haven't done extensive shooting yet. But the magnifier doesn't effect zero

They have adjustments for centering your reticle but it doesn't adjust point of aim

By 'zeroing' your magnifier, all you're doing is adjusting the glass to where the dot is in the center. The dot itself doesn't actually move.

BCM's uppers come with a compensator ☹️

For sure, never used one as wasn't sure

Yeah, the Mod 0 is decent from what I hear.

It may look like a bird cage in a way, but it's an actual comp

I can understand if someone doesn't want it though. I've got a regular a2 on my 11.5 because I don't want more blast if I have to use it indoors

I have a F&W muzzle device.. it's a flash hider, brake and comp all in one device

For my 11.5

Looks like that

How much did it run you?

It wasn't that much... I don't remember, lemme see how much these devices go for

Vg6 Epsilon goes for about $50

Aero makes them

Mod 0 claims to hide flash too.. I assumed you had to choose compensator or flash hider and that if it does both it doesn't do either as well.

Bullshit, this thing is amazing. Lmao. It doesn't hide flash 100% but it does suppress it. And the comp portion works really well.

I have shot it at night with NVGs and I retained vision just fine, it wasn't super bright.

Good to know

On a rifle-length barrel it is great. You'll hardly feel any movement. It is superior to the A2 in that aspect at least.

I wonder if I can find other people's experience with the flash-hider portion though

Okay, so I just watched a video. The VG6 does have a bit more flash coming out the front of the device. The A2 does not eliminate all flash either though. But the A2 does have slightly better flash suppression.

I wish suppressors were legal in Minnesota ☹️

Wait, they're not? That's communism!

Also, I'm absolutely not telling you to buy oil filters. But sometimes those cars need new oil filters.

@[CA] SoyBoi magnifiers do have to be zeroed. And un zeroed magnifiers can throw you several MOA. and some of the mounts don’t really work

> Also is the barrel and handguard aero, or something that store is claiming as their own?
@Crye_Salesman
The barrel and handguard are not aero, let me get the specs here in a minute or two

Eh using my magnifiers I never had any issues . All I did was zero my red dot and toss a magnifier on and it was fine

What magnifier/red dot combo would y'all recommend? Not against trying something new.

Depends on your budget? If you want cost efficient, AT3 makes a combo for like 200-300 I think? It's been alright for me. If you don't care about price, can't go wrong with EO Tech

> Eh using my magnifiers I never had any issues . All I did was zero my red dot and toss a magnifier on and it was fine
@TacticalBeard that’s gonna be a naw Chief. Chuck p and Aaron Cowan would disagree

Care to link sources ?

@Soulraiser the smaller the dot the better so somthing like the 1 MOA dot of the eotech or Leupolds new red dot would be ideal.

I liked the MRO but my astigmatism favored the eotech so I sold the 2MOA MRO. Aimpont is another gold standard red dot but I personally like the wide objective lense of the MRO way more than the aimpoints