Message from @BugsyBaldwin

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2020-05-23 01:23:39 UTC  

Yes but not their cheapest

2020-05-23 01:23:47 UTC  

Whatever the step up is

2020-05-23 01:30:46 UTC  

For a recce I'd say try their 1-8 Raptor with the ACSS, GarandThumb did a video on it

2020-05-23 01:36:33 UTC  

For EDC I'd say minum of 60 rounds for a pistol. That's my bare minimum when I'm doing armed security. Other guys will only carry one spare magazine I will carry at least 3 spares

2020-05-23 01:38:16 UTC  

For a rifle as a dmr I'd carry at least 160+ rounds depending upon what calibre and the intended job. For a standard semi auto rifle I'd carry bare minimum 8+ mags

2020-05-23 01:38:31 UTC  

I don't carry much for regular edc. My m&p shield with 7+1, or if I'm somewhere I don't want to be, my vp9 and an extra mag. All concealed carry and loaded with federal hst

2020-05-23 01:39:27 UTC  

Not bad. I just prefer have the extra ammo just incase. Once the lead starts flying you'd be surprised how quickly you can shoot through ammo especially when shitting your pants lol

2020-05-23 01:41:26 UTC  

My first line of defense is avoiding confrontation. No one gets too close to me, and if someone's acting aggressively, I've got pepper spray in my hand, shaking it right there in front of them. It doesn't need to be shaken, but I've yet to come across someone who wants to get any closer to me when they see it.

2020-05-23 01:42:06 UTC  

Yep the best self defence is using your mind and your words to avoid or to de escalate a situation

2020-05-23 01:42:37 UTC  

Working security I do a lot of de escalation lol

2020-05-23 01:42:57 UTC  

I haven't encountered one yet, but if they see it, bring their arms up and roll out of the way, that's when I get ready to pull my gun because I know they've been hooked up with it before

2020-05-23 01:43:21 UTC  

at least that's what I was told by a guy who worked with violent criminals

2020-05-23 01:43:30 UTC  

to watch out for the ones who duck and roll

2020-05-23 01:43:43 UTC  

I’m a fan of 2 extra mags for my handgun if I can help it

2020-05-23 01:44:07 UTC  

I usually roll with my 3913 and two mags

2020-05-23 01:44:29 UTC  

But I’m also in a tiny Wi town, probably never need it

2020-05-23 01:45:25 UTC  

Yeah in Canada I can open carry my antique revolver in the bush so I'd carry around 36 rounds in my pistol belt

2020-05-23 01:46:49 UTC  

Modern pistols require an ATC an authorize to carry which is open to the public but rarely granted its mainly for armed security personnel

2020-05-23 01:47:45 UTC  

I think there is maybe 300 civilians in Canada who have an ATC and are not security personnel or police etc

2020-05-23 01:48:19 UTC  

I have an ATC but only for work outside of work it's not valid

2020-05-23 01:50:27 UTC  

Which is gay or love to be able to carry when I go to shitholes like Toronto

2020-05-23 01:54:04 UTC  

Yeah, I appreciate being able to carry at least around here without jumping through stupid hoops

2020-05-23 02:13:52 UTC  

Just placed an order for a Hodge 12.5" barrel, 15% off for memorial day

2020-05-23 02:15:11 UTC  

Yep cuckanada is pretty lame for self defence

2020-05-23 02:16:33 UTC  

Canadian gubbament would probably freak with my edc knife being an auto

2020-05-23 02:21:28 UTC  

Lmao yeah no spring assist knives allowed. In Canada you actually cant carry anything with the purpose of self defence if you carry a knife you have to tell the police officer it's a work knife or something like that same with pepper spray you can only carry bear and dog mace for defence against wildlife and that can be subject to interpretation lol a good lawyer will tell you to keep a bat and a glove and a ball in your car so you have a reason to be driving with one if you use it in a self defence situation. Same thing applies in your home and at all times force can only be met with equal force and you are to retreat into your home until you a cornered and then you might be able to use lethal force but be prepared for a lengthy court process and possible bankruptcy unless you plea bargain and accept a lesser charge to get out of manslaughter or murder lol

2020-05-23 02:29:40 UTC  

Yeah, so tactically styled knifes are a huge no no for you

2020-05-23 02:30:08 UTC  

I mean shit, when I was into airsoft even your laws on that sucked

2020-05-23 02:51:39 UTC  

Just spring assisted knives and butterfly knives shit like that is a no no. My EDC knife is an AK47 bayonet

2020-05-23 02:52:18 UTC  

Iys a good knife to begin with and has a built in wire cutter when paired with the sheath

2020-05-23 02:53:11 UTC  

Or I carry a Canadian Tire cheapo fixed blade with a 5 inch or so blade

2020-05-23 02:53:54 UTC  

When it comes to weapons and things that are weapon shaped our government has stupid laws and regulations

2020-05-23 06:37:39 UTC  

Handling a violent criminal is one thing, most of them are pussies when by themselves. Mob mentality though...
Having worked in both a county jail and a state prison, oc spray is hardly a deterrent when you walk into the dormitories. Never let someone get behind you. I’ve seen jailers get their asses beat numerous times. Best thing to do is de-escalate. But NEVER, EVER show fear. We had them clean their dormitories, I made sure they did the floors to the point they were smooth as a baby’s ass for the sole reason it would be easier to trip or dip them.

Good times, but the pay is shit. Definitely taught me a lot about their behaviors. To me that’s become a take-home skill. You’d be surprised how often it comes in handy when dealing with people in security. Also a great thing to have if you’re planning on going into security. Another letterhead stepping stone/competitive bargaining chip if you can pitch it right.

2020-05-23 06:40:34 UTC  

Out of all the shit I’ve been sprayed with, defense solutions was the worst. Followed by fox, and then freeze +p. Not gonna brag, but that 2% fox stuff isn’t bad once you have some idea what it feels like. Don’t get me wrong, it makes taking someone to the ground harder, but to me it brought out additional strength. I guess through desperation/panic, but I felt it was precise given the circumstances.

Also another tolerance to take home considering they’ve got those big ass OC foggers now.

2020-05-23 06:45:27 UTC  

Interesting how COs wanna de-escalate while LEOs wanna escalate.

2020-05-23 07:20:43 UTC  

By all means put the heavenly fist of high speed jailer jesus down on their heads

2020-05-23 07:29:47 UTC  

Obviously there’s some times where your hands are tied and you gotta enforce jail policy and rules at which point you take every jailer in there with OC spray and you’re basically done.
The aftermath is the shitty part because then they hate you, are gonna be pulling shit, and it usually ends about a month or two later.

That’s jail.

Prison is a totally uncontrollable animal.

Outside of shake downs and breaking up fights, they can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want.

There’s ways to enforce policy rather than having a shouting match though.

Female dorm refuses to wear their shirts for some reason, drop the temp to 46 for a few hours.

Won’t stop running around the pods at 3 am, keeping the other inmates trying to sleep awake?
Black that place out and turn off the night lights.

Taking a shower when they’re not supposed to (rape liability)? Turn the water off and let them walk around for a few hours covered in suds.

Most of them are just drug addicts. Even the biggest assholes in jail usually get over the fact they got caught and warm up to you. Besides, most of them are revocation dudes who do 90 days and get out.

Fuck the sex offenders and gangbangers though

2020-05-23 07:32:23 UTC  

I’ve met some ex inmates on the outside. Totally different people than they are when they’re incarcerated.

2020-05-23 08:14:26 UTC  

I toured a prison once growing up, it was pretty interesting. The lower security areas were sorta like dormitories, a circular room surrounded by a couple levels of doors, some tables in the middle, and a circular desk with a single guard near the center. They said they only kept one guy in there to minimize risk, and the prisoners knew they could overwhelm the block if anything happened.
The high security area was way dinguer. Gray concrete, single person cells, a shower room where they'd be hosed down for 30 seconds by a guard through the bars, and a little plexiglas box they'd let a few of them wander around for a few minutes.

2020-05-23 08:16:25 UTC  

The illegal immigrants got the best treatment. They had a nice little area with wooden doors and locks that the prisoners could operate. They claimed they wanted to leave a good impression so they'd come back legally, but it was just a revolving door of the same people who were back in a month after being deported.

2020-05-23 09:24:27 UTC  

That sounds fucking awful lmao. Was the desk walled in with reinforced glass or something?

The jail I worked at was more of an open barracks. Even the sex offender dormitory was open, but had individual cells they were supposed to be in 10pm to 6am.

The prison had the same but gang members and sex offenders had their own cells and a dorm area they had 2 one hour times in a day with multiple inmates going out around the same time. New people in the control tower were why crazy shit went down, cause at first you don’t know who’s got beef with each other.