Message from @Catman

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2020-05-12 04:02:35 UTC  

The UN has no power without America. The UN would also be seen as a foreign army and unanimously opposed..
The broader problem is thinking authority gives rights

2020-05-12 04:03:14 UTC  

I do not believe in my own ideology that the declaration of the UN would be over the top. However, that is my own ideology, and many many would highly oppose it.

2020-05-12 04:08:57 UTC  

America is social dead, politically rotten, and altogether a dead memory held alive by us. Asking for help is something we cannot do and reveal to the world what little holds us together. Our oppressors loosely protect us from other oppressors like a mafia, we do not rule ourselves. That is why total collapse would be a red dawn disaster.

2020-05-12 04:12:08 UTC  

This gives the movement legitimacy. I agree about the UN being useless and the government rotten but by declaring that we are holding the government accountable for human rights activation we show that war is not what we want. The government is illegally conducting laws and should be held accountable for their actions. Media and government spin against whistle blower agencies is huge and that can be used to deflect some of the fools that will try and paint the movement otherwise

2020-05-12 04:19:38 UTC  

Trying to tell a wolf he isn't a good shepherd, and that we'll tell the other wolves on him.

2020-05-12 04:21:42 UTC  

@Catman so after several drafts of response to your question, I can best respond this way(please forgive the "crudeness") in America, we cant run to another nation or the UN to resolve our problems. We got ourselves into this shit pile, and getting out of it is only truly possible if we grab our shovels and dig ourselves out. No solution facilitated by an outside force will be acceptable. I believe if we wish to return to any sort of America that may have been, it is only the people of america who can do it. This is the country people flee to and beg for assistance. If we become the ones who flee, the ones who beg for "international" intervention, a huge part of the american spirit will be forever dead

2020-05-12 04:24:21 UTC  

We would never receive outside help as stated that our government funds the UN as their puppet. It would be to use human rights as a defining feature and purpose of this movement.

2020-05-12 04:27:25 UTC  

Lawmen have fought, some win some lose, to contest the government's constant infringements, but they see it as just a game. They need to not only fear but respect us, and know that their wreckless game has consequences. They don't give us anything we don't already INNATELY have

2020-05-12 04:29:08 UTC  

Fear can be caused in minutes, respect might take generations.

2020-05-12 04:31:41 UTC  

I think human rights and Liberty are interchangeable. But the term human rights, to me, implies a finite list. It, again to me, places the burden of proving a right when I feel Liberty places the government, rightly on the spot to explain and convince people that what they are doing is acceptable. Perhaps it just semantics, and most definitely I am not expressing myself as well as I would like, but the word "human rights" just doesnt fit. Also, as weve seen throughout history, one favorite tactic of governments is to dehumanize the enemy. They do that and we have lost the human rights angle

2020-05-12 04:33:49 UTC  

Using human rights violations made by both parties is a measurable way to show that the parties combined to do wrong. This can be used when talking to people.

2020-05-12 04:35:55 UTC  

Speaking of semantics, there's a huge difference in what is labeled as human rights,vs God given rights. Frederick Nietzsche proclaimed western society lost when he said "God is dead." God represents here the cornerstone or founding, like the founding fathers. The founding of this country was in its liberties given to us naturally, not as or by others. Humanity is earned, rights are claimed.

By all means use whatever talking points you find colloquial to you

2020-05-12 04:38:11 UTC  

We will never have America again if we cannot return to a cornerstone that isn't dependent on corruptable people

2020-05-12 04:39:19 UTC  

Yes! Thats the phrase! God given! I'm kicking myself for not remembering that😂

2020-05-12 04:40:14 UTC  

And god given rights are so vast and expansive that it belittles them to label "human" rights imo

2020-05-12 04:40:33 UTC  

I must retire for now but I hope to continue this chat in the morning. I love the input you guys are thinking of things I never would have thought of.

2020-05-12 04:40:39 UTC  

These days we'd can them "universal " as that term has all but substituted God as the origin of everything

2020-05-12 04:41:00 UTC  

Yeah same

2020-05-12 04:41:19 UTC  

I bid you Farwell for now and a restful slumber my friend. Or as they say night homie😂😂

2020-05-12 11:35:26 UTC  

Please feel free to criticize but I made this is the hopes that we can each fill one out and use it a guide to breaking the ice with the normies in your life.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561847134584893/709730452956643328/TLA_pamphlet_draft1.pdf

2020-05-12 12:49:49 UTC  

Questions from a different perspective are a brilliant idea! How will each individual respond when having to talk about what the movement is.

2020-05-12 13:08:02 UTC  

That was what got me started. And Also the desire to layout a format that anyone can use to prepare themselves for questions that can leave anyone fumbling for an answer. I hope it can help someone make a breakthrough to those Normies😂

2020-05-12 15:22:47 UTC  

Self education is the most important. I.E. rights granted us by the constitution, vs. rights are outlined in the constitution to restrict government infringement. Rights are inherent, constitution or not.

2020-05-12 15:23:22 UTC  

Most redpilling is just that, correcting and guiding the simple fallacies and myths.

2020-05-12 15:25:53 UTC  

@John Public really good questions. Someone said have a printout or laminated card B bois can carry to public events and rallies for this very purpose, including answering questions for any media

2020-05-12 15:26:42 UTC  

We get some things like this put down, and that can be a very effective tool, however, we must push self education above all else.

2020-05-12 15:28:01 UTC  

If a guy is just reading from notes rehearsed, most people won't buy that. That's snake oil. Gotta engage on genuine convo and ideas. Challenge people's perspective and opinions, which sre usually rooted in common misconceptions, like my I.E. above.

2020-05-12 15:29:25 UTC  

We can make this an education tool for the B bois firstly, and promote those talking points from memory and a genuine understanding. Put these FAQs out there with good answers in a pamphlet form

2020-05-12 15:31:24 UTC  

I agree completely. I was of two minds writing this, one as a way to prep for some questions and two as a layout for a pamphlet

2020-05-12 15:32:50 UTC  

Brilliant

2020-05-12 17:00:49 UTC  

Ain't lookin good boys.

2020-05-12 18:44:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561847134584893/709838338856714250/Screenshot_20200512-133619_Facebook.jpg

2020-05-12 18:44:08 UTC  

Facebook is stepping up their facial recognition

2020-05-12 18:58:58 UTC  

Wear a mask. For safety lmao

2020-05-12 20:53:55 UTC  

I did. They wont allow it

2020-05-12 21:10:38 UTC  

Wow. I thought them requiring your ID card was bad enough.

2020-05-13 02:05:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704561847134584893/709949421747568690/image0.jpg

2020-05-13 02:06:12 UTC  

All wearing a mask and compulsively washing hands is doing, is depleting people’s immune systems

2020-05-13 02:07:24 UTC  

I like people not freaking out about me concealing my face lol

2020-05-13 02:12:19 UTC  

I had a guy ready to fight me for not having one in a gas station. Felt bad for him, clearly hadn't left the house very much in weeks.