You have the rights you're willing to take and defend

well technically

I don't care if God says you can or can't rape my kids. I said you can't, and I have a gun

@Karlow Alderam that was my question

the constitution doesn't mention God specifically does it? it just says the creator

True

@Crye_Salesman I don’t mind discussions either bro man. We as Americans are at least called to be moral men, with balls of steel, who will go above and beyond to secure freedom and prosperity for our nation and their peoples.

@Bender the founders mentioned Providence and the creator, specifically avoided God

To avoid alienation

"peoples", that's a third rail lol

founding fathers were fucking BASED

I’m not religious I just enjoy the discussion with level headed people

except for the owning slaves part

i dont like that part

but other than that they were based as fuck

Did They Really Though

yes they did

Not all were fans of slavery

but they can be wrong about *that* and be right about everything else

There were people who almost refused to sign the constitution because slavery wasn’t ended then

Fisher Ames was right about stuff too

The founders were a coalition of different people with different backgrounds and different beliefs

The British could have tried to get them to argue religion and race and politics but nope

It was burgertime

@Bender I don’t think all the founders owned slaves, did they? That took money and enough land to justify the purchase. Maybe some of them did, but that’s just the way it was, this is one example of how tradition can be reprehensible.

not all of them, but some did

washington and jefferson to name a few

Tradition is the democracy of the dead. They don't have to have the veto but they deserve a vote

If tradition is oppressive you're a slave

@Jon What do you mean, “peoples is a third rail”

God in the Christian/ Jewish form . natures God, the presence of God, yes but they didnt want an established church or the smell of one so didnt mention a particular religions god.
Not to mention that most of them were deists and humanists

I've been watching waco, I think we need to build a mt carmel lol

What did I miss in command chat earlier? I was occupied, so I couldn't join.

On a indian reservation

It's pretty obvious what I mean to anyone seriously thinking about America After

Anything important?

Not everyone here can talk to everyone else

@Bogs_Bunny big things coming. Stay tuned to your local channels.

@Jon Idk what you meant though brother, so could you clarify Sir man dude chief? Lol

I believe religion in its purest for is good. Not with bad intentions but real love, understanding,tolerance, and acceptance. Not the sick twisted shit that tends to overshadow it. It’s people led right after all. I just feel like it’s forced on people all to often