All of these things are matter. The logos is the idea and reason and perfect form and singular word for it. The logos is theos

@fallot

So it makes more sense to call them Normalizers, who intervene en masse when the pendulum swings too far in either direction. It happens to be swinging too far to the left now, so they come off as right-wingers. But circa 1990, it was swinging too far to the right (Tipper Gore and the PMRC), and they came off more as left-wingers.

this is stupid

it's stupid but it touches on a real thing I think

the phenomenon of normal people, under leftism, but with living souls/common sense

Christ is the universal divine force behind all creation. Oh and he can incarnate himerlf and invalidate death and undermine prior religions as demonic.

That's the problem

you immediately presupose a divnity behind a creative force

As there cannot be good without evil and if he is good there has to be evil.

and above all, make a hierarchal structure in an arbitrary way

And by benevolence, he willed evil into being

and you presuppose that creative force is related to only one power

That's Platonism/neoplatonism

"all of things are matter" this is a pleonasm

Europeans pushed the spirit world beyond their world.

While for primitive peoples, the spirit and the material are interwined.

Wrong on so many levels

It's not wrong.

For all traditional teachings

What is traditional?

This is traditional.

If you don't understand that we cannot have a meaningful conversation

I mean what is "traditionaL'

that which belongs to traditional civilizations

Traditional civilizations actually believed that.

According therefore,to all traditional teachings

Traditional Indo-European sky father wills the world into being.

Through cognition

Material world was a manifestation, and as such full of symbols which revealed, but not represented higher meanings

CAN STILL BE MONIST HOWEVER

It is not a manifestation.

It is an imitation.

PLATO SAID CAUSE TO EFFECT: IDEA => MATERIAL

Body itself, was, when you deeply contemplate on these teachings, perhaps the most sacred of all

The idea is not material

The soul is not your body

IDEA (CAUSE) => MATERIAL (EFFECT)

THAT HOWEVER

IS A FORM OF MONISM

NOT DUALISM