Message from @devolved
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Allah is the one who is light and eternal outside of time beyond the high heavens beyond the heavenly spheres and tracks the actions of souls. It just breaks down when you have a being/force/will outside of time dictating something that is eternal with him despite being human creation by not the most educated people.
Allah is not just that though
Jesus wills the world into being by creating the idea of the world.
but per the Quran closer to you than your jugular vein
so immanent as well
Which relates back to earlier European pagan traditions of willing the world into being like Odin and Uranus/Jupiter/Saturn
The problem is the meaning of the "World" to you is limited to the Earth as a planet and it's immediate stellar surroundings
Rather than Semitic light/solar analogies.
and hence your possibility of comprehension is limited and superficial
No, Christ wills the universe into being.
"The World" itself is a metaphysical concept
By thinking of the idea of it.
Of which the solar system is but one manifestation, quite specific and formal
And Universe
nothing he said implied that @The Enlightened Shepherd
how did you get to that
I am curious
The methaphysical idea of "The Earth' is only in a quite specific and superficial way, related to scientific discovery of the universe
All of these things are matter. The logos is the idea and reason and perfect form and singular word for it. The logos is theos
So it makes more sense to call them Normalizers, who intervene en masse when the pendulum swings too far in either direction. It happens to be swinging too far to the left now, so they come off as right-wingers. But circa 1990, it was swinging too far to the right (Tipper Gore and the PMRC), and they came off more as left-wingers.
this is stupid
it's stupid but it touches on a real thing I think
the phenomenon of normal people, under leftism, but with living souls/common sense
Christ is the universal divine force behind all creation. Oh and he can incarnate himerlf and invalidate death and undermine prior religions as demonic.
That's the problem
you immediately presupose a divnity behind a creative force
As there cannot be good without evil and if he is good there has to be evil.
and above all, make a hierarchal structure in an arbitrary way
And by benevolence, he willed evil into being
and you presuppose that creative force is related to only one power
That's Platonism/neoplatonism
"all of things are matter" this is a pleonasm
Europeans pushed the spirit world beyond their world.
While for primitive peoples, the spirit and the material are interwined.
Wrong on so many levels
It's not wrong.
For all traditional teachings
What is traditional?
This is traditional.
If you don't understand that we cannot have a meaningful conversation