Message from @andy.flynn

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2017-04-27 12:02:53 UTC  

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2017-04-27 12:03:07 UTC  

Nah dont recall

2017-04-27 12:03:49 UTC  

But every little thing has effect on something

2017-04-27 12:04:23 UTC  

Voicing this for example, vs not, but still not going

2017-04-27 12:05:42 UTC  

I think it is more significant it was considered a legit excuse by his fellows

2017-04-27 12:06:12 UTC  

yeah for sure

2017-04-27 12:10:29 UTC  

Apathy is the antithesis of faith it would seem

2017-04-27 16:04:34 UTC  

Why am I not metal?

2017-04-27 16:06:47 UTC  

question: is Clerical Fascism an oxymoron?

2017-04-27 16:07:14 UTC  

Seems like most "Clerical" Fascists were closer to post-Christian integralists than anything authentically Christian

2017-04-27 16:07:23 UTC  

and most knew it as well

2017-04-27 16:07:43 UTC  

Clerical fascism = merely a fascism whose leaders are religious

2017-04-27 16:08:05 UTC  

but take Codreaunu for example

2017-04-27 16:08:12 UTC  

and his followers

2017-04-27 16:08:25 UTC  

They knew they were more pagan than orthodox in some sense

2017-04-27 16:08:58 UTC  

For Codreanu and those similar to him

2017-04-27 16:09:35 UTC  

I think that what is most important is the protection of the spiritual sentiments of the majority, in his chase, majority, "faith of the polis"being Romanian Orthodox Church

2017-04-27 16:09:58 UTC  

Needless to say, serving as a valid spiritual counter-axis to the opposing (in his opinion) currents, those of modernity and Judaism

2017-04-27 16:10:28 UTC  

To him, it was important to cure the nation of it's godlessness, namely it's lack of spiritual

2017-04-27 16:13:25 UTC  

I feel like in some sense, they all knew their feudal intepretation of Christianity was flawed

2017-04-27 16:13:47 UTC  

fascism in any form rejected semitic Christianity outright

2017-04-27 16:14:04 UTC  

its whether they were neopagan or feudal Christian is where the differences lie

2017-04-27 16:14:11 UTC  

but take Maurras for example

2017-04-27 16:14:53 UTC  

Very open about feudal Christianity just being, essentially a noble myth of utility and not take it's esoteric beliefs seriously

2017-04-27 16:15:40 UTC  

also why evola coined 'catholic pagan'

2017-04-27 16:15:43 UTC  

Catholic reaction was the typical example of "I made a terrible mistake" too late reaction to the mess they brought up themselves

2017-04-27 16:16:16 UTC  

However, deep down, I don't think it's purpose was backward at all, but simply reactionary perhaps in face of an overwhelming current

2017-04-27 16:16:48 UTC  

Catholic Church wanted to protect the "universal" which was not mind you cosmopolitan, as Evola correctly understood

2017-04-27 16:16:51 UTC  

so i assume now that the church is currently gasping for air, it doesn't make much sense to ever return to Christianity

2017-04-27 16:17:04 UTC  

as a Fascist

2017-04-27 16:17:19 UTC  

in Catholic doctrine, Universal was comparableto that of Hindu faith, which did not interfere with local differences

2017-04-27 16:17:32 UTC  

Church is finished, it does not exist

2017-04-27 16:17:47 UTC  

What we are witnessing now is completely unrelated to the Church I am talking about

2017-04-27 16:18:06 UTC  

Just as in Hindu faith you had for example, a sacred language Sanskrit

2017-04-27 16:18:16 UTC  

so in Catholic faith you had Latin

2017-04-27 16:18:54 UTC  

in some way, Catholicism could be quite racial at times, but not in Chamberlainian-Grantian way, but preciselly in Evola's vision of race

2017-04-27 16:19:00 UTC  

operating word *at times*

2017-04-27 16:19:35 UTC  

Also, Catholicism wanted to protect the priestly caste from profanity, integration, inclusion and relegation to base ideals

2017-04-27 16:19:47 UTC  

However, unlike Hindu caste, it lacked the bloodline succession

2017-04-27 16:20:29 UTC  

Relying instead on recruitment, which necessarily leads to devolvement, and promotion of men of letters, who as a rule drifts towards rhetorical, and hence, towards that which represents involution