My idea of perfect marriage, if I need to make examples

see you have to specify to make sense

would be Roman Republic

so specify what you mean and then indicate with one women or many if any sex is still involved

not getting married and having children and not getting married and celibacy would be superior for an individual male

okay, now we're getting somewhere. why is that?

Because family life is unsuitable for spiritual and other pursuits

okay, how so?

It's distracting, overwhelming, emmotional

To me, Roman aristocratic ideal (the way it is described as such in all testimonies) is the form which elevates the marriage to the level of an institution in the most desirable way

hold up

so that it really represents a pillar so to speak

you got off into weird abstractions again

I no longer know what you are talking about

and not merely an outburst of biological forces

so last I heard, family life was bad for men because it is distracting, overwhelming, emotional etc. and prohibits spirituality or other pursuits

It doesn't prohibit

elaborate on those three factors of family life

But makes suboptimal, difficult

Depends on the level of one's devotion

I'm having ascetics in mind

Many philosophers, who were equally devoted to thought, complained about the same difficulties

okay

But we are to consider thought way more easier than life of an ascetic

so by "ascetic" do you mean something along the lines of "lives alone, owns minimal things, minimal distractions" etc?

*fixed*

yes

okay

and this is for what purpose?

Meditation comes to mind

Impossible to pursue inside any household with other people

why?

In fact, the existence of monkish institutions, serves so monks could encourage each other as well

why can you not meditate in a household exactly?

Get some guidance in meditative techniques, try it and you will see

no, be specific. is it noise? being too close to your worldly cares?

the latter is a good point, among others

presence of other beings in one way or another makes optimal conditions more difficult to achieve

in terms of space

silence

schedules