Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd
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Depends on the level of one's devotion
I'm having ascetics in mind
Many philosophers, who were equally devoted to thought, complained about the same difficulties
okay
But we are to consider thought way more easier than life of an ascetic
so by "ascetic" do you mean something along the lines of "lives alone, owns minimal things, minimal distractions" etc?
*fixed*
yes
okay
and this is for what purpose?
Meditation comes to mind
Impossible to pursue inside any household with other people
why?
In fact, the existence of monkish institutions, serves so monks could encourage each other as well
why can you not meditate in a household exactly?
Get some guidance in meditative techniques, try it and you will see
no, be specific. is it noise? being too close to your worldly cares?
the latter is a good point, among others
presence of other beings in one way or another makes optimal conditions more difficult to achieve
in terms of space
schedules
preparation of meals
okay, then a few items for your consideration
so it's basically noise + proximity + chores so far
the very organization of daily life in accordance with certain standards
noise: you are the man of the house, make people behave. If they do not behave, hit them.
that is why God gave you great physical power
that very act of hitting somebody would be exactly the type of distraction you want to avoid
proximity: you could leave your household and go somewhere else to meditate, even set aside an entire unscheduled day for it
chores: see above
now this last part is important for you to consider
it perfecty fits the description of "sub-optimal"
you don't want to do that, or have to do that
it's the introduction of passions and emotions where you least want them
well obviously, but you do what you need to in order to get results, that is how life works
an old brahmin is supposed to deed his possessions over to his oldest son, then become a wandering holy hermit and go live in the woods
the fact that family and max ascetic spiritual life are not compatible is worked into the system
once the man's grandchildren are born, he alone or he and his wife if he wants can go be wandering monk hermits in the woods until they drop dead mid prayer or meditation or whatever
there are strict guidelines on how much they may own, what they may do, how much food they can eat and from where they can procure it
so basically they did your thing already