but let me still see if I understand

sensor: see phenomenon->compile list of phenomena and their behaviors->attempt to explain

This way of looking at personality was first advanced by carl jung.

while intuitives do what?

yes, I'm aware of Jung

The language is jungian.

It isn't objective.

so attempt to summarize or explain

meet me halfway bro

so as opposed to perceiving phenomena and noting patterns, what does an intuitive do? do they just wake up with gnosis of how the world works?

intuitives tend to see or want to find principles from which all phenomena could thereafter be explained (think einstein, lawrence krauss)

Go to the root first.

Skip the tree.

I don't think like that man

Technically intuitive

You think more like that than you do a sensor.

okay, so sensors pay attention to what is, and intuitives want to find a theory of everything. Is that getting close to your idea?

Yeah, I can work with that.

so what if a sensor looked at so many phenomena and inductively reasoned so much that he too developed an explanatory theory of everything? would he then become an intuitive?

I am generally getting an impression from you that an intuitive is someone who connects dots while a sensor is a hollywood caveman retard who does not connect dots

not so much that the intuitive does not sense phenomena, but that the sensor is restricted to that alone and can't really abstract

both the sensor and the intuitive see the rocks in the stream just fine, but for the sensor it stops there because he is a retard, while the intuitive goes on to notice patterns

I think the sensor would always need to refer his theory to something observable.

A contemplation of pure metaphysics, I don't think he would do.

Like perennial philosophy or something.

so a sensor in your lingo corresponds to an empiricist in philosophic terms

Like sensor, when they're religious, usually are so because they had a personal experience of seeing or feeling the divine.

Wheras an intuitive could just know it regardless.

how?

Sensors are more empirical, yeah.

I feel like your intuitive concept requires magic gnosis

Through intellectual intuition.

(that's the real term guenon used)

that defines intuition using the word intuition, it is circular

the kabbalah is a very good kabbalah

http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/basics#sn

It is.

based on your context I am forced to conclude that you mean gnosis

```The purpose of this dimension of personality is to draw a clear line between the concrete and the abstract (or the physical and the intangible). Some people prefer to rely mostly on physical concrete data for understanding reality (Sensing), while other people prefer to rely mostly on intangible abstract data for understanding reality (Intuition). People need to use both cognitive processes: sometimes you need to attend to the facts and details of the world in order to make sure that you act realistically according to the demands of present conditions, and sometimes you need to extract abstract concepts such as seeing patterns, meaning, and potential in order to plan well for the future. Everyone needs to learn how to sense or intuit at the right time, however, Sensors can have difficulty understanding why Intuitives pay so much attention to abstract potential, and Intuitives can have difficulty understanding why Sensors consider it so important to be grounded in the tangible world.```

```For those who have never studied philosophy, it may be hard to grasp the exact meaning of “concrete” versus “abstract”. A simple way to understand the difference is that concrete qualities are defined as inherent to the objects themselves, whereas abstract qualities are interdependent as they arise from relationships to other things. For example, the book that I am reading is made of paper. The quality of being made of paper is inherent to the book, so we consider this a concrete property because it is true in every time and place - there is no situation in which the book will not be made of paper. By contrast, an abstract quality of the book is its “purpose”. The purpose of a book can change even as the book stays the same physically. I can use the book for its intended purpose to disseminate information or I can use the book for some other purpose such as a paperweight, fire kindling for keeping warm, a weapon to smack someone, etc. The “purpose” of the book changes in accordance to another object - me - and what I choose to use it for. Thus, the purpose of the book is an abstract quality that is not inherent to the book itself but only arises because of its relationship to something else.```

```Sensing and Intuition are two opposite ways of gathering information or perceiving the world:

The Sensing Process: gathers concrete data through the physical senses (and recent research indicates that there are more than five senses); focuses on relevant facts and details as well as changes in the sensory environment
The Intuition Process: gathers abstract data through extracting patterns, connections, implications, and meaning; focuses on speculating about potential or possibility
Sensors derive more psychological interest and comfort from concrete knowledge whereas Intuitives derive more psychological interest and comfort from abstract knowledge, therefore, Sensors prefer to be grounded and practical and Intuitives prefer to be speculative and future-oriented, whenever circumstances allow.
Everyone senses and intuits as they need to but one side is more dominant, natural, and automatic. Sensors can intuit but they easily get impatient with speculation if they do it too long, at which point they will want to revert to sensing in order to regain psychological equilibrium. Intuitives can sense but they easily feel bored with practical matters if they do it too long, at which point they will want to revert to intuiting in order to regain psychological equilibrium.
Remember that S/N is not the same as creativity (this is a separate issue). Sensors are not necessarily uncreative, they simply want ideas to be realistic and are more willing to accept ideas if they are presented in practical/actionable terms. Intuitives are not necessarily more creative, they are simply more interested in exploring abstractions but many of their ideas could end up being absurd or infeasible if they are very out of touch with sensing.```