Message from @Horns

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2017-12-24 17:29:22 UTC  

Whether one looks at rocks (sensors) or the waters rushing around them (intuitives)

2017-12-24 17:30:27 UTC  

I think the waters reach deeper to what is True.

2017-12-24 17:31:20 UTC  

so... you are using neologistic terms

2017-12-24 17:31:39 UTC  

but let me still see if I understand

2017-12-24 17:32:04 UTC  

sensor: see phenomenon->compile list of phenomena and their behaviors->attempt to explain

2017-12-24 17:32:31 UTC  

This way of looking at personality was first advanced by carl jung.

2017-12-24 17:32:31 UTC  

while intuitives do what?

2017-12-24 17:32:39 UTC  

yes, I'm aware of Jung

2017-12-24 17:32:40 UTC  

The language is jungian.

2017-12-24 17:32:51 UTC  

It isn't objective.

2017-12-24 17:33:12 UTC  

so attempt to summarize or explain

2017-12-24 17:33:33 UTC  

meet me halfway bro

2017-12-24 17:34:29 UTC  

so as opposed to perceiving phenomena and noting patterns, what does an intuitive do? do they just wake up with gnosis of how the world works?

2017-12-24 17:34:45 UTC  

intuitives tend to see or want to find principles from which all phenomena could thereafter be explained (think einstein, lawrence krauss)

2017-12-24 17:34:58 UTC  

Go to the root first.

2017-12-24 17:35:03 UTC  

Skip the tree.

2017-12-24 17:35:15 UTC  

I don't think like that man

2017-12-24 17:35:22 UTC  

Technically intuitive

2017-12-24 17:35:32 UTC  

You think more like that than you do a sensor.

2017-12-24 17:35:41 UTC  

okay, so sensors pay attention to what is, and intuitives want to find a theory of everything. Is that getting close to your idea?

2017-12-24 17:36:03 UTC  

Yeah, I can work with that.

2017-12-24 17:36:46 UTC  

so what if a sensor looked at so many phenomena and inductively reasoned so much that he too developed an explanatory theory of everything? would he then become an intuitive?

2017-12-24 17:37:16 UTC  

I am generally getting an impression from you that an intuitive is someone who connects dots while a sensor is a hollywood caveman retard who does not connect dots

2017-12-24 17:37:40 UTC  

not so much that the intuitive does not sense phenomena, but that the sensor is restricted to that alone and can't really abstract

2017-12-24 17:38:25 UTC  

both the sensor and the intuitive see the rocks in the stream just fine, but for the sensor it stops there because he is a retard, while the intuitive goes on to notice patterns

2017-12-24 17:39:29 UTC  

I think the sensor would always need to refer his theory to something observable.

2017-12-24 17:39:47 UTC  

A contemplation of pure metaphysics, I don't think he would do.

2017-12-24 17:40:02 UTC  

Like perennial philosophy or something.

2017-12-24 17:40:29 UTC  

so a sensor in your lingo corresponds to an empiricist in philosophic terms

2017-12-24 17:40:49 UTC  

Like sensor, when they're religious, usually are so because they had a personal experience of seeing or feeling the divine.

2017-12-24 17:41:04 UTC  

Wheras an intuitive could just know it regardless.

2017-12-24 17:41:22 UTC  

how?

2017-12-24 17:41:30 UTC  

Sensors are more empirical, yeah.

2017-12-24 17:41:42 UTC  

I feel like your intuitive concept requires magic gnosis

2017-12-24 17:41:47 UTC  

Through intellectual intuition.

2017-12-24 17:41:59 UTC  

(that's the real term guenon used)

2017-12-24 17:42:00 UTC  

that defines intuition using the word intuition, it is circular

2017-12-24 17:42:16 UTC  

the kabbalah is a very good kabbalah

2017-12-24 17:42:23 UTC  

It is.

2017-12-24 17:42:38 UTC  

based on your context I am forced to conclude that you mean gnosis