Message from @Horns

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2017-12-24 17:16:46 UTC  

That's why I'm gay.

2017-12-24 17:21:30 UTC  

will 2018 be the year diversity is over?

2017-12-24 17:21:42 UTC  

also, wild, explain your business about sensing

2017-12-24 17:22:02 UTC  

as you might know I have a heavy background in psychology and psychometrics, and I am aware of MBTI as one of many typological theories

2017-12-24 17:22:20 UTC  

but what is so special about sensing vs intuiting

2017-12-24 17:22:44 UTC  

in your own words, what is intuiting, what is sensing, and why is one better than the other

2017-12-24 17:25:09 UTC  

phenomena vs the idea

2017-12-24 17:26:30 UTC  

Also could be seen as "what is" vs "what could be and has been"

2017-12-24 17:27:08 UTC  

elaborate

2017-12-24 17:27:17 UTC  

is this some platonic instance vs essence notion?

2017-12-24 17:28:35 UTC  

Sensors tend to to think that which exists is what is and explanations need to be crafted around it to explain it, and intuitives tend to think phenomena are consequences or emanations of immaterial-isms.

2017-12-24 17:29:22 UTC  

Whether one looks at rocks (sensors) or the waters rushing around them (intuitives)

2017-12-24 17:30:27 UTC  

I think the waters reach deeper to what is True.

2017-12-24 17:31:20 UTC  

so... you are using neologistic terms

2017-12-24 17:31:39 UTC  

but let me still see if I understand

2017-12-24 17:32:04 UTC  

sensor: see phenomenon->compile list of phenomena and their behaviors->attempt to explain

2017-12-24 17:32:31 UTC  

This way of looking at personality was first advanced by carl jung.

2017-12-24 17:32:31 UTC  

while intuitives do what?

2017-12-24 17:32:39 UTC  

yes, I'm aware of Jung

2017-12-24 17:32:40 UTC  

The language is jungian.

2017-12-24 17:32:51 UTC  

It isn't objective.

2017-12-24 17:33:12 UTC  

so attempt to summarize or explain

2017-12-24 17:33:33 UTC  

meet me halfway bro

2017-12-24 17:34:29 UTC  

so as opposed to perceiving phenomena and noting patterns, what does an intuitive do? do they just wake up with gnosis of how the world works?

2017-12-24 17:34:45 UTC  

intuitives tend to see or want to find principles from which all phenomena could thereafter be explained (think einstein, lawrence krauss)

2017-12-24 17:34:58 UTC  

Go to the root first.

2017-12-24 17:35:03 UTC  

Skip the tree.

2017-12-24 17:35:15 UTC  

I don't think like that man

2017-12-24 17:35:22 UTC  

Technically intuitive

2017-12-24 17:35:32 UTC  

You think more like that than you do a sensor.

2017-12-24 17:35:41 UTC  

okay, so sensors pay attention to what is, and intuitives want to find a theory of everything. Is that getting close to your idea?

2017-12-24 17:36:03 UTC  

Yeah, I can work with that.

2017-12-24 17:36:46 UTC  

so what if a sensor looked at so many phenomena and inductively reasoned so much that he too developed an explanatory theory of everything? would he then become an intuitive?

2017-12-24 17:37:16 UTC  

I am generally getting an impression from you that an intuitive is someone who connects dots while a sensor is a hollywood caveman retard who does not connect dots

2017-12-24 17:37:40 UTC  

not so much that the intuitive does not sense phenomena, but that the sensor is restricted to that alone and can't really abstract

2017-12-24 17:38:25 UTC  

both the sensor and the intuitive see the rocks in the stream just fine, but for the sensor it stops there because he is a retard, while the intuitive goes on to notice patterns

2017-12-24 17:39:29 UTC  

I think the sensor would always need to refer his theory to something observable.

2017-12-24 17:39:47 UTC  

A contemplation of pure metaphysics, I don't think he would do.

2017-12-24 17:40:02 UTC  

Like perennial philosophy or something.

2017-12-24 17:40:29 UTC  

so a sensor in your lingo corresponds to an empiricist in philosophic terms

2017-12-24 17:40:49 UTC  

Like sensor, when they're religious, usually are so because they had a personal experience of seeing or feeling the divine.