Message from @Arthur Konrad
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^ karl marx
That Jesus sculpture is Christ as his Oulanem figure.
Which itself is a Satanic inversion of Emanuel
yeah he was a satanist
he had good words though "all historical events happen twice, first time as a tragedy, second time as a farce"
words sourly forgotten if you ask me, and scarcely ever applied where they are in fact the most applicable
His critique of capitalism is spot on as is his discussion of the relationships between economic power politics and class
Everything else not so much
BUt that is mechanical thinking
His critique of capitalism is in essence the critique of a mechanical, class-organized society
Capitalist dynamics, as something that is in itself dependent on context, and is impartial per se, is not really subject to criticism
BUt obviously, by arguing for another class rule, Marx replaces one mechanical class revolution with another
Well I mean you can only really talk about thing as they actually happen and not as some contextless eternal truth or whatever
I mean you can talk that way
But i just ain't buying
Once labor is reduced to a commodity, it is insane to expect it won't become subject to simple market laws
But Bolshevism does not alter that. It only abolishes market, but not labor as commodity.
what are they going to do when enough labor is automated that labor as commodity has little if not negative value (higher error rate plus higher hourly cost than robots)
In fact, all the ways that Bolshevism penalizes the productive, is merely an attempt to fix a marketless society where labor is still a commodity (since everyone is a laborer, few would be able to make decent living by laboring)
that's going to hugely change shit
Not to mention that the entire principle itself, where every man is assumed a natural born laborer is simply so false, insane, made up and outright batshit insane, that talking about everything else with that as *a premise* is in itself pure subversion of dialogue
people on the right like to deny that any of that is happening
yeah
they'll have to hand out free money so that the country doesn't end up in an overproduction crisis
Labor, as a concept, is essentially industrial
I sure don't see man as inherently a laborer
most other men do so they are natural laborers though
boomer here do YOU millennials even WORK for a living???
man is inherently a GOD
Labor, as something organized around abstraction, is mechanical, *even if it deals with real needs*. That's why people are so attracted to possibility of return to agriculture, because agriculture lacks this abstract quality
POCs have the mark of cain, they may never hold the priesthood, they cannot go to heaven
Most people find labor uninspiring and tormenting, and to make this world into a labor paradise is an act of cruelty
agricultural civs had their abstract autism too though
By labor i mean industrial labor
Bolsheviks and leftists of course, have no idea about the cruel nature of the consequences of what they do, becasue they focus only on the most tangible manifestations of cruelty, like violence, making someone feel bad, etc.
yeah that's because they are retarded
they are semi intelligent
intelligent enough to notice KILLING AM WRONGBAD 😦 😦 😦 but not smart enough to think it all through to the end
Not to mention the elephant in the room, or the question "what if I'm struck by the misfortune, and am denied the life saving option (meaning, an intervention with bad long term consequences)"
But the good, meaning give everyone support to persist, but slowly dismantle in the long term modern society, requires simply too much discipline to be feasible