Capitalist dynamics, as something that is in itself dependent on context, and is impartial per se, is not really subject to criticism

BUt obviously, by arguing for another class rule, Marx replaces one mechanical class revolution with another

Well I mean you can only really talk about thing as they actually happen and not as some contextless eternal truth or whatever

I mean you can talk that way

But i just ain't buying

Once labor is reduced to a commodity, it is insane to expect it won't become subject to simple market laws

But Bolshevism does not alter that. It only abolishes market, but not labor as commodity.

what are they going to do when enough labor is automated that labor as commodity has little if not negative value (higher error rate plus higher hourly cost than robots)

In fact, all the ways that Bolshevism penalizes the productive, is merely an attempt to fix a marketless society where labor is still a commodity (since everyone is a laborer, few would be able to make decent living by laboring)

that's going to hugely change shit

Not to mention that the entire principle itself, where every man is assumed a natural born laborer is simply so false, insane, made up and outright batshit insane, that talking about everything else with that as *a premise* is in itself pure subversion of dialogue

people on the right like to deny that any of that is happening

yeah

they'll have to hand out free money so that the country doesn't end up in an overproduction crisis

Labor, as a concept, is essentially industrial

I sure don't see man as inherently a laborer

most other men do so they are natural laborers though

boomer here do YOU millennials even WORK for a living???

man is inherently a GOD

Labor, as something organized around abstraction, is mechanical, *even if it deals with real needs*. That's why people are so attracted to possibility of return to agriculture, because agriculture lacks this abstract quality

no, only white man @devolved

POCs have the mark of cain, they may never hold the priesthood, they cannot go to heaven

Most people find labor uninspiring and tormenting, and to make this world into a labor paradise is an act of cruelty

agricultural civs had their abstract autism too though

By labor i mean industrial labor

Bolsheviks and leftists of course, have no idea about the cruel nature of the consequences of what they do, becasue they focus only on the most tangible manifestations of cruelty, like violence, making someone feel bad, etc.

yeah that's because they are retarded

they are semi intelligent

intelligent enough to notice KILLING AM WRONGBAD 😦 😦 😦 but not smart enough to think it all through to the end

Not to mention the elephant in the room, or the question "what if I'm struck by the misfortune, and am denied the life saving option (meaning, an intervention with bad long term consequences)"

But the good, meaning give everyone support to persist, but slowly dismantle in the long term modern society, requires simply too much discipline to be feasible

Like for example, if you are a third generation of women giving birth by caesarian section, then you should not be left to bleed to death obviously, but by that time some eugenicism should be considered presumed that we want to have all modern features at all

yeah

I see it as really difficult since nobody will go out on a limb to make anything happen anymore

"let's make our race and geographic territory as perfect as possible" presumes a level of baseline cohesion we haven't had in generations

and I have no idea how to go from gen Z doxxing each other online back to that

Marxism in all honesty, is something that sounds undefeatable to people of a certain age, even intelligent, provided they already live in a mechanical society

I mean I have a fine collection of friends who would make great founding stock for a new aryan humanity

When born in a traditional society, even at a young age some immunity to Marxism is there

if I could I would give them all 4 wives a piece and unlimited funding to raise children

Its difficult in these circumstances to make people feel genuinely positive about the prospect of raising a family