EVEN BY IDEAS

Yes, but It kind of makes me uneasy to read the most acclaimed Philosophers and to see that they didnt really bother to hit the very center

I mean, I understand their point, and their good purposes

However, say about love, they didn't really go to the very end in unraveling that

It is all aimed at beauty *but from a decidedly geriatric perspective*

Define geriatric

I refuse to do that

I can't help but think that Zen's idea of beauty is more decisive, both infinite but also devoid of idiosyncrasies, if somewhat fatalistic, but certainly transcends Doric drunkenness with soft feelings

Rome on the other hand ❤

THESE ARE NOT SOFT FEELINGS

THEY ARE THE HARDEST THAT EXIST

A FORM OF LOVE FOR THE INTANGIBLE

ZEN CAN BE INFLUENTIAL BUT I FIND IT ULTIMATELY A FIXATION ON SOME BASIC IDEAS

Hmmm, I don't think Zen is fixed on any single idea, in fact, Zen contains absolutely no ideas at all

I was more thinking on the translation of Zen spirit into the ethical and aesthetic, that is to my comprehension more mature

In fact, from the position of pure aestheticism, Doric style and Zen style are essentially manifestations of one and the same

But from the perspective of the beauty of feelings and the comprehension of vital energies translating into social complexes such as love and romance, Plato was almost on par with Dostoevsky in his idealism.

Geriatric aesthetes for sure ! The extent to which they refuse to deal directly with ugly things at all in their writings. To them, maintenance of only pure, noble, soft and elevated "forms" at all times was almost like a necessary nutrient

Diogenes was the best Greek

ZEN IS DEFINITELY A SINGLE IDEA

NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT CLAIMS OTHERWISE

I FIND IT KIND OF SIMPLE ACTUALLY

IT IS A CERTAIN TYPE OF REALISM

BASED NOT ON TRANSCENDENTALISM BUT TEMPORALISM

SORT OF LIKE HINDUISM CROSSED WITH SHINTO

Mahayana -> chan + Shinto = zen

CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME

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DIOGENES WAS FUN BECAUSE HE WAS A LITERALIST

REALISM IS A BIT MORE IDEALISTIC

IN THE SENSE OF GERMANIC IDEALISM

BUT I LIKE HIS GROUCHINESS

"HUMANITY... FUCKIN' BLIGHT"

Zen isn't realism, certainly not Shinto and even much less temporalism

Zen is derived from early Tantrism, originates from India, touches "Shinto" only on the plane of appearances, much like Tibetan or Mongolian folk touches Vajrayana. Zen decidedly IS transcendentalism, but unfortunately, its method is not widely understood, and is somewhat impenetrable for philosophy and dialectics

Zen places so much emphasis on the "unsayable" (Zen koans illustrate this well), that any polemical Zen is almost impossible to conceive of

Mahayanism is a much wider definition than Zen, so Zen does not derive form it, but it can be included in Mahayanist tradition, but then again, it can also be included also in Tantric tradition, but emphasis is slightly more contemplative and meditative

TRANSCENDENTALISM IS INHERENT

THE "UNSAYABLE" IS JUST A RIFF ON NIHILISM

COMMUNICATION DOES NOT EXIST

Absolutely not