Message from @Katze Miaulitzer

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2019-09-12 21:45:16 UTC  

yes and according to the definition of fascism they are very similar as well

2019-09-12 21:45:19 UTC  

Ok, then please quote the part of the article that supports your position

2019-09-12 21:45:25 UTC  

"The SA regarded Hitler's seizure of power in 1933 as a "first revolution" against the left, and some voices within the ranks began arguing for a "second revolution" against the right."

2019-09-12 21:45:47 UTC  

@Katze Miaulitzer yes, so it was an anti-left movement

2019-09-12 21:45:54 UTC  

Notice they didn’t actually get around to the second part

2019-09-12 21:45:58 UTC  

it would help if you acknowledged what fascism is.

2019-09-12 21:46:00 UTC  

They just took over the government

2019-09-12 21:46:13 UTC  

I have already laid out the definition of fascism

2019-09-12 21:46:13 UTC  

also them not getting to that part doesn't mean that wasn't their intent

2019-09-12 21:46:19 UTC  

and I have as well

2019-09-12 21:46:23 UTC  

I categorically disagree with your characterization of fascism

2019-09-12 21:46:44 UTC  

...right it was a right wing populist movement

2019-09-12 21:46:59 UTC  

Weren't the communist fascists too then?

2019-09-12 21:47:04 UTC  

No

2019-09-12 21:47:06 UTC  

yes

2019-09-12 21:47:08 UTC  

So you disagree with the actual definition of fascism then?

2019-09-12 21:47:12 UTC  

That was a left wing populist movement

2019-09-12 21:47:23 UTC  

the USSR was fascist

2019-09-12 21:47:26 UTC  

I think there is a linguistic disconnect here.

2019-09-12 21:47:29 UTC  

I don’t believe you have provided a definition of fascism that is accurate

2019-09-12 21:47:34 UTC  

?

2019-09-12 21:47:43 UTC  

You can search on google and find my definition

2019-09-12 21:47:58 UTC  

I did and found my definition.

2019-09-12 21:48:02 UTC  

Stalin did kill his political opponents

2019-09-12 21:48:14 UTC  

That’s not the definition of fascism @Katze Miaulitzer

2019-09-12 21:48:27 UTC  

Alright, I’m not going to debate muddied by rabble

2019-09-12 21:48:34 UTC  

You guys are effectively using the same ass definition

2019-09-12 21:48:37 UTC  

@Cobra Commander you can dm me if you want to discuss further

2019-09-12 21:48:58 UTC  

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2019-09-12 21:49:07 UTC  

Sure I can agree with that

2019-09-12 21:49:23 UTC  

That applies to Hitler’s government and not Stalin’s

2019-09-12 21:49:29 UTC  

Now again, I’m out of here.

2019-09-12 21:50:19 UTC  

Stalin had a personality cult just like Hitler though

2019-09-12 21:50:31 UTC  

I can give a list of at least 5 different parts of the Soviet Union that aligns perfectly with each part of that definition of Fascism

2019-09-12 21:50:39 UTC  

You’re missing race

2019-09-12 21:50:42 UTC  

And the USSR has engaged in ethnic cleanses similarly to the Nazi's

2019-09-12 21:50:43 UTC  

The race part is crucial

2019-09-12 21:50:59 UTC  

It was still not an ethnostate

2019-09-12 21:51:09 UTC  

They were killing based on ideology which they targeted on race

2019-09-12 21:51:16 UTC  

Anyway I’m sincerely out lol