Message from @Soup Can Sam

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2019-09-12 21:47:06 UTC  

yes

2019-09-12 21:47:08 UTC  

So you disagree with the actual definition of fascism then?

2019-09-12 21:47:12 UTC  

That was a left wing populist movement

2019-09-12 21:47:23 UTC  

the USSR was fascist

2019-09-12 21:47:26 UTC  

I think there is a linguistic disconnect here.

2019-09-12 21:47:29 UTC  

I don’t believe you have provided a definition of fascism that is accurate

2019-09-12 21:47:34 UTC  

?

2019-09-12 21:47:43 UTC  

You can search on google and find my definition

2019-09-12 21:47:58 UTC  

I did and found my definition.

2019-09-12 21:48:02 UTC  

Stalin did kill his political opponents

2019-09-12 21:48:14 UTC  

That’s not the definition of fascism @Katze Miaulitzer

2019-09-12 21:48:27 UTC  

Alright, I’m not going to debate muddied by rabble

2019-09-12 21:48:34 UTC  

You guys are effectively using the same ass definition

2019-09-12 21:48:37 UTC  

@Cobra Commander you can dm me if you want to discuss further

2019-09-12 21:48:58 UTC  

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2019-09-12 21:49:07 UTC  

Sure I can agree with that

2019-09-12 21:49:23 UTC  

That applies to Hitler’s government and not Stalin’s

2019-09-12 21:49:29 UTC  

Now again, I’m out of here.

2019-09-12 21:50:19 UTC  

Stalin had a personality cult just like Hitler though

2019-09-12 21:50:31 UTC  

I can give a list of at least 5 different parts of the Soviet Union that aligns perfectly with each part of that definition of Fascism

2019-09-12 21:50:39 UTC  

You’re missing race

2019-09-12 21:50:42 UTC  

And the USSR has engaged in ethnic cleanses similarly to the Nazi's

2019-09-12 21:50:43 UTC  

The race part is crucial

2019-09-12 21:50:59 UTC  

It was still not an ethnostate

2019-09-12 21:51:09 UTC  

They were killing based on ideology which they targeted on race

2019-09-12 21:51:16 UTC  

Anyway I’m sincerely out lol

2019-09-12 21:51:36 UTC  

The idea that fascism and communism are the same thing is just something fascists say to muddy the waters

2019-09-12 21:51:58 UTC  

It casts suspicion on your whole argument’s motives to suggest that fascism is somehow *not* a right wing ideology

2019-09-12 21:52:04 UTC  

I have not stated they are the same

2019-09-12 21:52:18 UTC  

Some basic historical facts have to be agreed upon before any reasonable discussion is engaged in

2019-09-12 21:52:24 UTC  

Peace

2019-09-12 21:52:32 UTC  

I think fascism is an ideology all in its own and cannot belong to the right or left

2019-09-12 21:52:57 UTC  

Nope, it’s exclusively right.

2019-09-12 21:53:00 UTC  

...

2019-09-12 21:53:02 UTC  

yes exactly, and you are not acknoweledging that it was not just conservatives that supported the Nazi's

2019-09-12 21:53:03 UTC  

you are so one-sided

2019-09-12 21:53:12 UTC  

egrnwfedowsq

2019-09-12 21:56:13 UTC  

It is very frustrating to be accused as a Nazi sympathizer when all I am doing is saying that they cannot possibly be far right due to their similarities to the USSR, I have not once said they were not terrible.

2019-09-12 21:57:13 UTC  

Especially when I have not defended them *once*