Message from @Platinum Spark

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2019-09-12 21:43:45 UTC  

All of the top Nazi officials engaged in capitalist enterprises, and German business was inexorably intertwined with the Nazi party

2019-09-12 21:43:55 UTC  

"Joseph Goebbels, who would later go on to become the Nazi Propaganda Minister, was strongly opposed to both capitalism and communism, viewing them as the "two great pillars of materialism" that were "part of the international Jewish conspiracy for world domination."[267] Nevertheless, he wrote in his diary in 1925 that if he were forced to choose between them, "in the final analysis", "it would be better for us to go down with Bolshevism than live in eternal slavery under capitalism".[268] He also linked his anti-Semitism to his anti-capitalism, stating in a 1929 pamphlet that "we see, in the Hebrews, the incarnation of capitalism, the misuse of the nation's goods."[167] "

2019-09-12 21:44:27 UTC  

AHEM

2019-09-12 21:44:27 UTC  

@Cobra Commander I read that article and it says exactly what I said

2019-09-12 21:44:40 UTC  

Which is that they are both authoritarian

2019-09-12 21:44:43 UTC  

Where exactly are you referring to in the article?

2019-09-12 21:44:52 UTC  

Literally the entire article

2019-09-12 21:44:56 UTC  

Well yes they are both authoritarian

2019-09-12 21:45:01 UTC  

that's not what I was arguing

2019-09-12 21:45:02 UTC  

It goes through the similarities in authoritarianism

2019-09-12 21:45:16 UTC  

yes and according to the definition of fascism they are very similar as well

2019-09-12 21:45:19 UTC  

Ok, then please quote the part of the article that supports your position

2019-09-12 21:45:25 UTC  

"The SA regarded Hitler's seizure of power in 1933 as a "first revolution" against the left, and some voices within the ranks began arguing for a "second revolution" against the right."

2019-09-12 21:45:47 UTC  

@Katze Miaulitzer yes, so it was an anti-left movement

2019-09-12 21:45:54 UTC  

Notice they didn’t actually get around to the second part

2019-09-12 21:45:58 UTC  

it would help if you acknowledged what fascism is.

2019-09-12 21:46:00 UTC  

They just took over the government

2019-09-12 21:46:13 UTC  

I have already laid out the definition of fascism

2019-09-12 21:46:13 UTC  

also them not getting to that part doesn't mean that wasn't their intent

2019-09-12 21:46:19 UTC  

and I have as well

2019-09-12 21:46:23 UTC  

I categorically disagree with your characterization of fascism

2019-09-12 21:46:44 UTC  

...right it was a right wing populist movement

2019-09-12 21:46:59 UTC  

Weren't the communist fascists too then?

2019-09-12 21:47:04 UTC  

No

2019-09-12 21:47:06 UTC  

yes

2019-09-12 21:47:08 UTC  

So you disagree with the actual definition of fascism then?

2019-09-12 21:47:12 UTC  

That was a left wing populist movement

2019-09-12 21:47:23 UTC  

the USSR was fascist

2019-09-12 21:47:26 UTC  

I think there is a linguistic disconnect here.

2019-09-12 21:47:29 UTC  

I don’t believe you have provided a definition of fascism that is accurate

2019-09-12 21:47:34 UTC  

?

2019-09-12 21:47:43 UTC  

You can search on google and find my definition

2019-09-12 21:47:58 UTC  

I did and found my definition.

2019-09-12 21:48:02 UTC  

Stalin did kill his political opponents

2019-09-12 21:48:14 UTC  

That’s not the definition of fascism @Katze Miaulitzer

2019-09-12 21:48:27 UTC  

Alright, I’m not going to debate muddied by rabble

2019-09-12 21:48:34 UTC  

You guys are effectively using the same ass definition

2019-09-12 21:48:37 UTC  

@Cobra Commander you can dm me if you want to discuss further

2019-09-12 21:48:58 UTC  

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2019-09-12 21:49:07 UTC  

Sure I can agree with that