@Throttles with the bigbrain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp2sCcOO9J0

> l think the American dream is nonsense

@qwasi american dream is fuck all nowadays

You have to be asleep to believe it... 😄 (Carlin quote)

@Throttles#6140 socialism works in smaller communities

It does not work in bigger groups because human nature is selfish

And they will try manipulating the benefits of it

Keep America non communist

AMERICA FUCK YEAH

Lmao

@JesusHand That's a claim in psychology, give an argument for it.

Philosophically, it'd go along the lines of we do whatever is in our best interest or benefits us, hence why things that communism entails maybe in our interest.

And what do you mean by smaller, are you arbitrarily drawing lines between numbers?

What counts as small for you and why do you count it as small.

@Throttles a community of maybe 100 people

I’m saying a smaller group of people rather than millions

Why are you picking that number? @JesusHand

Just a guess

The number is besides my point

I’m saying the larger the population the harder it will be to have a functioning society with socialism

@JesusHand You say it's because of humans being selfish in nature. Can you provide an argument for that?

Humans are cannibalistic in nature but we still resist it, we don't run off instincts. Furthermore, whatever is natural isn't moral.

https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=515668867

And that goes for capitalism as well, in fact it goes for any possible economic system because we have scarce resources.

Yes but capitalism is built around there being selfish people

As the greed of one contributes to all of society

If a person creates a billion dollar company they contribute to producing product, and employ thousands

@JesusHand Lol no it doesn't. It's whatevers in one's own self interest as stated by Adam Smith in his wealth of nations. One's self interest cane helping others.

Also no it doesn't. Because a person can just automate machinery and leave workers out of jobs.

GG @Throttles, you just advanced to level 11!

Machinery is more efficient as well

@Throttles Automation doesn’t make every lose their jobs

It just changes the jobs people can work

Those workers are maid redundant because of factor immobility, they lack the skillset of engineering.

@JesusHand

Aren’t you a capitalist

Yeah.

I am.

I'm not an austrian though

I'm a Keynesian

Socialism doesn’t work with corruption in it

Or else it falls apart like in Venezuela

Yeah nothing does work with corruption in it.

@Throttles Socialism breeds corruption when the government controls resources and production