Message from @JesusHand
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Just a guess
The number is besides my point
I’m saying the larger the population the harder it will be to have a functioning society with socialism
@JesusHand You say it's because of humans being selfish in nature. Can you provide an argument for that?
Humans are cannibalistic in nature but we still resist it, we don't run off instincts. Furthermore, whatever is natural isn't moral.
https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=515668867
And that goes for capitalism as well, in fact it goes for any possible economic system because we have scarce resources.
Yes but capitalism is built around there being selfish people
As the greed of one contributes to all of society
If a person creates a billion dollar company they contribute to producing product, and employ thousands
@JesusHand Lol no it doesn't. It's whatevers in one's own self interest as stated by Adam Smith in his wealth of nations. One's self interest cane helping others.
Also no it doesn't. Because a person can just automate machinery and leave workers out of jobs.
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Machinery is more efficient as well
@Throttles Automation doesn’t make every lose their jobs
It just changes the jobs people can work
Those workers are maid redundant because of factor immobility, they lack the skillset of engineering.
Aren’t you a capitalist
Yeah.
I am.
I'm not an austrian though
I'm a Keynesian
Or else it falls apart like in Venezuela
Yeah nothing does work with corruption in it.
@Throttles Socialism breeds corruption when the government controls resources and production
But socialism is when the labourers own the means of production, are the government labourers? @JesusHand
@Throttles Yes but the government is in control of that
So it's not socialism because they still control it
There is still government leaders taht are in control of the industry
So it's not socialism, because the labourers don't control the means of production.
That just means it's a command economy.
@Throttles There is still a leader of the country
and government officials
Okay, and?
@Throttles Venezuala is failing from corruption of government officials
they have the power of the industries and can put whoever they want in charge of them
Yeah, that's a command economy, not socialism. @JesusHand
so you're saying venzuala isnt socialist
Of course it's not
70% of businesses ran by government
I think