Message from @SonicAF

Discord ID: 620884868775149573


2019-09-08 20:57:18 UTC  

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2019-09-08 22:41:34 UTC  

I don't think wind and solar are "fucked" - but I agree that nuclear deserves far more attention

2019-09-08 22:56:28 UTC  

So get reckt because sustainable energy can’t sustain itself in the long run lol. Get educated.

2019-09-08 22:58:18 UTC  

if only we found perpetual energy

2019-09-08 22:58:29 UTC  

that would be nice

2019-09-09 22:04:52 UTC  

Lmao how is this even a debate

2019-09-10 01:47:45 UTC  

it isnt

2019-09-10 01:47:58 UTC  

the entire world has accepted the science

2019-09-10 01:48:15 UTC  

its literally just the republican party that has a problem with delusions

2019-09-10 06:59:27 UTC  

I thought the argument was about whether humanity was behind global warming? @Green Syndicalism

2019-09-10 07:01:53 UTC  

i think Silver is just referring to the name of the channel

2019-09-10 07:08:17 UTC  

There is also an argument about the scope. The world ending in 12 years is ridiculous.

2019-09-10 07:08:33 UTC  

Or is it 11 now? It has been a while since she said it.

2019-09-10 07:18:53 UTC  

thats a pretty big strawman

2019-09-10 07:19:04 UTC  

she was referring to the UN's report on climate change

2019-09-10 07:19:08 UTC  

the literal gold standard

2019-09-10 07:19:29 UTC  

which stated that "we only have until 2030 to enact policies to keep global warming to 1.5 degrees by 2050"

2019-09-10 07:32:52 UTC  

Sounds pretty tame in comparison to

2019-09-10 07:34:48 UTC  

So yes, it's not just the "republican party having a problem with delusions". It's democrat doomsayers going too far and receiving a pushback.

2019-09-10 07:35:29 UTC  

Progressives discredit the entire issue when they try to blow it out of proportion.

2019-09-10 07:46:13 UTC  

come on dude

2019-09-10 07:46:22 UTC  

shes clearly exaggerating for rhetorical purposes

2019-09-10 07:46:48 UTC  

anyone who references "12 years" is talking specifically about the IPCC report

2019-09-10 07:47:02 UTC  

which doesn't predict "the end of the world"

2019-09-10 07:47:54 UTC  

(for what its worth, i'm a fan of rhetorical exaggerations on climate change because being moderate clearly hasnt fucking worked to institute the change necessary)

2019-09-10 07:55:34 UTC  

also, just through introspection, i have found the arguments/speeches that affected me the most on climate change weren't the "matter-of-fact" rhetoric i was exposed to, but the more impassioned and probably exaggerated rhetorical points. That doesn't mean i base my opinions on those things, but rather they geared my emotions up in a way that drab autistic appeals wouldn't, and made me more engaged/alert to the climate change issue, far more, as a whole.

2019-09-10 07:56:02 UTC  

No.

2019-09-10 07:56:11 UTC  

Nuke the Icecaps.

2019-09-10 07:56:14 UTC  

Periodt.

2019-09-10 07:56:46 UTC  

now, im a student of mathematics and computer science, so im not a typically emotional person, but if their impassioned appeals can generate emotions in someone with as flat an affect as me, then its bound to be even more effective on normal people

2019-09-10 07:57:17 UTC  

Clevor mans

2019-09-10 07:57:21 UTC  

Goud smort

2019-09-10 08:28:54 UTC  

> shes clearly exaggerating for rhetorical purposes
What can I say, she shouldn't have done it. Neither should she disregard the fact that China, Russia and the muslim world are competing with the US for world dominance.

2019-09-10 08:29:50 UTC  

Uniting them all under the banner of fighting the common threat is a great idea, but you can't use exaggerated threats to do so.

2019-09-10 08:33:31 UTC  

Keep in mind that this rhetoric did not just motivate your research on the matter. It also created rabid lefties and gave a weapon to discredit the entire thing to opposition, no matter how unreasonable and unscientific.

2019-09-10 08:35:44 UTC  

So we have one side having a seizure while the other one is like "just look at them".

2019-09-10 08:35:45 UTC  

GG @SonicAF, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-09-10 10:01:00 UTC  

> but you can't use exaggerated threats to do so.

sorry bud, but the United States did this with the Soviet Union for 45 years, and it worked *amazingly*

2019-09-10 10:02:02 UTC  

> It also created rabid lefties

these idiots would exist regardless of AOC saying the world is ending in 12 years