its literally just the republican party that has a problem with delusions

I thought the argument was about whether humanity was behind global warming? @Green Syndicalism

i think Silver is just referring to the name of the channel

There is also an argument about the scope. The world ending in 12 years is ridiculous.

Or is it 11 now? It has been a while since she said it.

thats a pretty big strawman

she was referring to the UN's report on climate change

the literal gold standard

which stated that "we only have until 2030 to enact policies to keep global warming to 1.5 degrees by 2050"

Sounds pretty tame in comparison to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHk8nn0nw18

So yes, it's not just the "republican party having a problem with delusions". It's democrat doomsayers going too far and receiving a pushback.

Progressives discredit the entire issue when they try to blow it out of proportion.

come on dude

shes clearly exaggerating for rhetorical purposes

anyone who references "12 years" is talking specifically about the IPCC report

which doesn't predict "the end of the world"

(for what its worth, i'm a fan of rhetorical exaggerations on climate change because being moderate clearly hasnt fucking worked to institute the change necessary)

also, just through introspection, i have found the arguments/speeches that affected me the most on climate change weren't the "matter-of-fact" rhetoric i was exposed to, but the more impassioned and probably exaggerated rhetorical points. That doesn't mean i base my opinions on those things, but rather they geared my emotions up in a way that drab autistic appeals wouldn't, and made me more engaged/alert to the climate change issue, far more, as a whole.

No.

Nuke the Icecaps.

Periodt.

now, im a student of mathematics and computer science, so im not a typically emotional person, but if their impassioned appeals can generate emotions in someone with as flat an affect as me, then its bound to be even more effective on normal people

Clevor mans

Goud smort

> shes clearly exaggerating for rhetorical purposes
What can I say, she shouldn't have done it. Neither should she disregard the fact that China, Russia and the muslim world are competing with the US for world dominance.

Uniting them all under the banner of fighting the common threat is a great idea, but you can't use exaggerated threats to do so.

Keep in mind that this rhetoric did not just motivate your research on the matter. It also created rabid lefties and gave a weapon to discredit the entire thing to opposition, no matter how unreasonable and unscientific.

So we have one side having a seizure while the other one is like "just look at them".

GG @SonicAF, you just advanced to level 2!

> but you can't use exaggerated threats to do so.

sorry bud, but the United States did this with the Soviet Union for 45 years, and it worked *amazingly*

> It also created rabid lefties

these idiots would exist regardless of AOC saying the world is ending in 12 years

AOC has only existed for 1 year, rabid lefties have been around for half a decade

also, the rhetoric AOC is using *was already being used by rabid lefties BEFORE the IPCC report came out*

*the reason politicians started using this rhetoric is because rabid lefties already adopted it long ago and generated grassroots pressure for dems to declare a climate crisis*

so you have the causation the wrong way around

>gave a weapon to discredit the entire thing to opposition

*the opposition's position has become MORE amenable to the science over time, not less*

10 years ago people used to deny global warming itself

now the most pushback you get is "but it might not be man-made!"

which means there's no empirical evidence that the left's approach is failing

> sorry bud, but the United States did this with the Soviet Union for 45 years, and it worked amazingly
In the atmosphere of informational isolation and for more tame goals than uniting the entire world.

> these idiots woul<...>wrong way around
Sure. I am not saying something is wrong with her existence, even 3 million american looneys deserve political representation. I am saying that the democratic party, thanks to AOC, does not sound very rational either.
In reality one side wants to squeeze fossils' as much as they can before it becomes actually dangerous and other superpowers can't abuse them either, while the other one demands unity right now. Good luck to the latter.

> the opposition's position has bec<...>he left's approach is failing
What is important is not the most pushback you can find. The important part is how much ground you can give before collapsing. Now, thanks to AOC, we can completely drop the conversation, point the finger at her and shout "look at this liar!" even when she says half-truths. Hysteria feels weird. It's alienating.