Message from @Platinum Spark

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2019-10-07 16:35:40 UTC  

And many leave when they can

2019-10-07 16:35:51 UTC  

Also property values are lower because their economies are worse

2019-10-07 16:36:37 UTC  

So when you hear democratic candidates for prez talking about their plans to deal with homelessness

2019-10-07 16:36:45 UTC  

How do you feel about that?

2019-10-07 16:37:04 UTC  

Id have to see there plans

2019-10-07 16:38:01 UTC  

Ok, if I sent you plans would you read them?

2019-10-07 16:38:12 UTC  

I'm just going off my experience and what I've seen, and yes I would

2019-10-07 16:38:43 UTC  

I'll read them

2019-10-07 16:39:43 UTC  

Take a look at that, I’d be interested in what you think

2019-10-07 16:41:34 UTC  

I mean, building more homes to curb homelessness not a bad idea

2019-10-07 16:41:58 UTC  

At least its not rent control

2019-10-07 16:49:08 UTC  

I think that Warren's solution to homelessness would be as ineffective as the current administrations response to housing. What's discussed in this Medium article is well-and-good if you're under threat of homelessness as a result of gentrification, but it doesn't actually address transitioning people out of homelessness. @Platinum Spark

2019-10-07 16:49:46 UTC  

Like if you're homeless without income, an increase in investment in low-to-middle income housing will literally do nothing for you.

2019-10-07 16:50:42 UTC  

@fuck12moredeadcops the vast majority of homeless are temporary

2019-10-07 16:50:52 UTC  

Like, just a little gap of under 2 months

2019-10-07 16:51:00 UTC  

So it would absolutely do something for you.

2019-10-07 16:52:01 UTC  

What're you basing that on?

2019-10-07 16:52:59 UTC  

I can't find any studies backing that claim, and I organize in my city. Most of the people on the street have been there 1-2 years, or they're periodically in and out of temporary housing situations

2019-10-07 16:55:38 UTC  

The problem we should focus on chiefly is mental healthcare and harm reduction, if you're trying to tackle homelessness. I don't wholly disagree with the sentiment of decreasing rent (though something more aggressive than a 10% reduction is necessary), or incentivizing the expansion of more low-to-middle income housing, but presenting these things as viable solutions to solving homelessness is a mistake to me.

2019-10-07 16:56:29 UTC  

Chronic homelessness accounts for 24% of homelessness

2019-10-07 16:56:40 UTC  

76% are temporary

2019-10-07 16:57:01 UTC  

Actually addressing homelessness means a complete restructuring of mental healthcare, and a housing first approach.

2019-10-07 16:57:04 UTC  

Not like

2019-10-07 16:57:26 UTC  

just building housing they're not mentally equipped to afford

2019-10-07 16:57:43 UTC  

Yes, a single payer system would go a long way toward helping homelessness by getting people mental health care

2019-10-07 16:58:00 UTC  

It’s a multifaceted problem, absolutely

2019-10-07 16:58:19 UTC  

Also the way they're defining chronically homeless doesn't account for those who are constantly in and out of temporary housing situations

2019-10-07 16:58:20 UTC  

GG @fuck12moredeadcops, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-10-07 16:58:31 UTC  

"*Chronically homeless individuals are individuals with disabilities who have either been continuously homeless for one year or more or who have experienced at least four episodes of homelessness in the past three years where the combined length of time homeless in those occasions is at least 12 months.*"

2019-10-07 16:58:39 UTC  

It’s the technical definition

2019-10-07 16:58:43 UTC  

And they also necessitate some form of disability

2019-10-07 16:59:18 UTC  

I'm not just talking about the disabled and people who're wholly unsheltered for an entire year. Anybody who cannot find a stable living situation is in just as shite a situation

2019-10-07 16:59:32 UTC  

...ok

2019-10-07 16:59:46 UTC  

The 3 types of homelessness are chronic, transitional and disaster

2019-10-07 16:59:58 UTC  

We typically talk about chronic

2019-10-07 17:00:06 UTC  

And that’s mostly what you and trauma are talking about

2019-10-07 17:00:12 UTC  

But they’re a minority of the homeless pop

2019-10-07 17:00:31 UTC  

Mostly people who lose jobs and such

2019-10-07 17:00:47 UTC  

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